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Gender confrontation in Tangshan incident has nothing to do with "foreign forces incitement" | What young people in Beijing and Hong Kong have to say

2022-06-19T04:40:34.290Z


"Hong Kong 01" series "Beijing and Hong Kong youth have something to say", from the perspective of Hong Kong and mainland youth studying in Beijing, to share with readers their experiences and feelings in life, as well as their observations and reflections. The author of this article is


"Hong Kong 01" series "Beijing and Hong Kong youth have something to say", from the perspective of Hong Kong and mainland youth studying in Beijing, to share with readers their experiences and feelings in life, as well as their observations and reflections.

The author of this article is a mainland student studying at a university in Beijing.


In the early morning of June 10, 2022, there was a violent beating incident in a barbecue restaurant in Tangshan City.

The police have finally arrested nine perpetrators.

Discussions surrounding the incident include the rule of law and gender perspectives, but when netizens discuss gender issues, they are often accused of involving "foreign forces" and "capital incitement."

In this regard, the author believes that these allegations ignore the reality of gender confrontation in China.


More than ten hours after the Tangshan beating case, public opinion spread, and netizens mainly discussed it from the perspectives of the rule of law and gender.

As the live video exposed the atrocities of the men involved, and was forwarded and commented on by a large number of netizens, the case jumped from a step-by-step routine security case to a "big case of the century" that the secretary of the Tangshan Political and Legal Committee made a statement.

This loose and tight case handling rhythm has naturally become one of the criticism points targeted by public opinion.

The most intuitive feeling of netizens after watching related videos is naturally "In recent years, there have been too many incidents of violence against women". After all, the incident of "Dalian men beating girls violently" in 2019 is still vivid in their minds.

At that time, a girl was walking on the street, and was punched in the face, head and abdomen more than 20 times by the oncoming man.

As a result, many women cried, "The strong do not understand the pain of the weak, and the weak can only live by luck." There were also some voices asking men to review the Internet, and Luo Xiang, a well-known law popularization KOL, also analyzed how to do it from the perspective of mainland criminal law. try this case.

From a macro perspective, most male mainland netizens discuss this issue from the perspective of criminal law, but more female netizens choose to reflect on this vicious incident from the perspective of gender. Some male netizens think that this issue should not be regarded as a gender issue. , after all, "men will be beaten when they encounter such a gangster."

Some mainland women realized that some men did not recognize that the case reflected gender issues, and emphasized that "remarks that attack all men are not conducive to mutual understanding, but when female friends use a male address, they often do not want to be indistinguishable. Attacking all the men around me, but an outlet for the fear and distress I have endured in my life for the past two decades."

Fragment of Tangshan's "beating incident".

(Weibo)

She said she can imagine the reason why men are distressed by this vicious incident because "it seems like all of a sudden, because you're a man, you're going to have a new public responsibility. But the responsibility arises because the harm done by privilege needs to be taken care of." Make up, you really need to be aware of the privileges you have in your life because you were born as a man.” Calling on men to pay attention to the exploitation of women in mainland society and globally.

They judged that those who identified in this case as "an issue of violence that escalated to a gender issue" were often people who had not experienced structural fear, saying "[these people] don't know what is innate. , just because of their inherent weakness, the fear of the world view is written in the bottom of the heart. Because of the fear of skin color, because of the fear of race, because of the fear of belief, because of the fear of unacceptable sexual orientation. These women also agreed that the The case is a matter of vicious violence, a question of good and evil, and an unfinished campaign to eradicate evil. It is also an economic downturn, and it is a class issue, but I insist that the case should also be discussed from the perspective of gender issues.

A young woman from the mainland said: "Some people want to discuss a girl who was sexually harassed and then beaten. They have to dissect her gender to talk about it. They feel that men may also be beaten. Do you know a man who was sexually harassed? You Do you know a man who was beaten for refusing to be sexually harassed? If not, ask the women around you, have they experienced sexual harassment?” The implication is that women must experience more sexual harassment than men. .

The entire Tangshan beating incident was videotaped.


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— LevelJoO (@LevelJoO) June 10, 2022

On the basis of the above views, many mainland women pointed out that these views that refuse to regard events as gender issues are themselves oppression of women.

"When some media reported this incident, they used neutral and innocuous terms such as 'touching the back', 'talking', and 'picking up a conversation' for the innocent harassment of female diners. It is irresponsible, because this incident belongs to gender-based violence and cannot be distinguished. Sexual harassment is sexual harassment, otherwise it is turning a blind eye to the gender-based violence in this incident." They said that the sexually provocative meaning of "stroking the back" is very clear. , it is a very clear form of sexual harassment in the form of physical contact without the other party's consent.

Some netizens further elaborated: "Many indignant viewers clearly recognize the logic of this violence: it stems from the random and unstoppable desire to blaspheme and violate women's existence by men who abuse women. Covering up alcoholism, drunkenness, etc., and imposing more direct intensity on women, such as Tangshan this time, such desires must be accompanied by male violence. This kind of violence is not an obstacle to success, because the forced contact with unfamiliar women , Violence is always the coercive force of 'escort', molesting and physical attacks are nothing but different forms of violence."

"Therefore, the fear and anger of the majority of women towards the film at the Tangshan Station didn't start when the man hit the woman in white, but when he passed the victim and performed hooliganism. Therefore, the female audience's reaction to the violence throughout the whole process began. Contact, violent discipline (like a 'teach them a lesson' abuser mentality) is felt more violently than men."

Some mainland sociologists pointed out that the main reason why the incident has aroused a lot of public opinion is that it subverts the social stereotype of objects being sexually harassed - "female victims generally walk inaccessible because of their appearance and because they wear good-looking or revealing clothes. This time, the woman was plain looking, walking in a company, and wearing normal clothes, a far cry from the above stereotypes and the corresponding “sex victim guilt” (victim guilt).

Therefore, mainland women have called for understanding this injustice, believing that it is everyone's responsibility, and eliminating this injustice is everyone's moral obligation, asking men, "Women are afraid of encountering strange men walking alone at night, do you understand? ?”, “Although not all men are violent criminals, all women live in fear of violent crime by men”.

More importantly, except for the friends of the girls who were harassed and attacked, no one in the film seemed willing to act bravely, so it was inevitable for women to feel that "only women can help women".

Some netizens responded that "women can learn self-defense techniques and carry anti-wolf spray to protect themselves", but many mainland women pointed out that it is unreasonable and inefficient to ask women to protect themselves.

Because when women see male prisoners, "what they face is absolute terror. This terror stems from the obvious lack of strength, so that men don't need to use any weapons at all to make women horrified." Even onlookers can feel that This can be irrelevant to gender, but certainly not the person involved.

"The world in which women live is a world where the other half of the population is generally 10 centimeters taller and 5 kilograms heavier, a world where there is almost no chance of winning as long as you resort to violence, and a world where you will be humiliated and punished if you do anything. A damaged world."

After all, some people even use the terms "carnivore" and "herbivore" to describe the relationship between men and women.

Some young men from the mainland said that many men may be puzzled as carnivores, because after all, it is not themselves who committed the crime. Since they have done nothing wrong, why should they be treated like this?

However, violent hunting can only happen in one direction. It is basically impossible for women to take the initiative to attack men for sexual reasons.

The life of any herbivore is shrouded in uncertainty, and the risk of being hunted never goes away.

When such a risk of life and death still exists in nearly half of the groups in society, "carnivores" are still entangled in the fact that they have been treated with unwarranted malice.

That in itself is ridiculous.

It's true that some "carnivores" have done nothing wrong, but they have been stigmatized by suspicion and stigma.

But is there a better choice for "herbivore"?

The behavior of "herbivorous animals" is to avoid danger in advance, to protect themselves, and to condemn the abstract group of "carnivores" for not knowing which "carnivore" will attack them tomorrow.

These actions are worth it as long as they can exchange even a bit of their own safety and awaken the "carnivores" to a little awareness of the current situation, and the price is only the psychological discomfort caused by the "carnivores" being suspected. There is no reason for "herbivore" to consider "carnivore" on this issue.

Such remarks naturally drew rebuttals from many men, arguing that the rhetoric only applies to a lawless society.

Some men expressed that these demands have nothing to do with men accepting criticism very extreme, complaining, "The whole circle of friends is swiping the screen of male-female confrontation, which makes me think I have opened Weibo. Is it because the thugs had sexual harassment before the violence? However, every time Motivation can be found in injury cases. The motive can be that you glanced at him or he was in a bad mood today. According to statistics, there are 1.4 billion people in China. Two cases of beating others. Within five minutes of my editing, there was one more injury, one intentional injury, and one more case of picking quarrels and provoking trouble. Anyone who sees a threat anywhere should stay away, and should not participate in the already In the injury case that happened. The reason is very simple, and it can be seen in many places.”

There are also male netizens who would say that in addition to reporting to the police, it is unwise to participate in a fight with "righteousness and courage". Less than three years and less than seven years. Serious injury, intentional injury/serious injury caused by negligence, more than three years but less than seven years/less than three years. Even if one kicks out the opponent with a concussion, it is considered a minor injury, and he is happy to mention Intentional injury, no more than three years. If you are really self-defense, criminal detention + release on bail pending trial is a set of at least two months of time cost. Even if you don't lose or win, both parties are fine, and you can be detained for more than five days and less than ten days. .” Therefore, he said that it is reasonable to observe more, run early, and call the police when encountering such a thing, and women can only protect themselves as much as possible.

Some mainland women cited sports science related papers to explain that the essence of the so-called women's self-defense is "a skill with high input and low output, and it is easy to generate blind self-confidence. It is precisely this kind of unnecessary self-confidence that is the most harmful, and it is positive when you can get rid of it. Conflict, you can use your words to stimulate when you leave. When you find that the gangster on the opposite side won't cooperate with the performance like in the film, maybe it's time for you to be really finished. After all, the case happened because of the existence of the criminal, not the victim. The opportunity for crime comes first. In violence against women, the focus should not be on educating them on how to protect themselves.” Frankly, it takes a lot of time to be able to protect oneself.

In addition, more women say that it is unreasonable to ask women to protect themselves, and it is unhealthy for women to be attacked and harassed by society's acquiescence.

In this kind of society, these mainland girls currently believe that the feminism they pursue is not to hate men, but to eliminate privileges. Men are also victims of gender inequality, and they absolutely cannot agree to deny this without understanding and dialogue. demands for gender equality.

The analysis of the official account pointed out that the gender issue is a whole, not an isolated one.

(credit: Says the Seagull)

However, this backfired. Some online articles discussing women's rights and interests were deleted by relevant departments. A large number of mainland informants condemned the relevant discussions as infiltration of Western feminist ideas. It was even reported that some teachers asked students to evaluate and condemn related gender issues. Women are outraged by this.

On June 10, Liu, a student of the Law School of Southwest University of Political Science and Law, was warned and punished for making inappropriate remarks on the Internet about the "Tangshan BBQ restaurant beating incident", which caused adverse effects.

In the comment area of ​​related news, "I'll be fair, this woman is not a good person. Those who eat barbecue at the barbecue stall in the middle of the night and stay at home are all social hooligans", "In the final analysis, it is a man. Comments such as teaching girls hooligans to be human beings" and "gender issues are Western thoughts and are not conducive to the development of Chinese society" have aroused the disgust of a large number of mainland women.

As a large number of articles discussing the incident from the perspective of gender issues were deleted, mainland women who followed the incident emphasized that when they gathered, it was not because of "foreign forces" or because of "incitement by capital", but simply because they were immersed in society Fear is innate in your genes.

"The fact is that this society is still a male-dominated society. It doesn't matter if you don't want to admit it, and there is no need to quibble. In fact, you and I both know it well, let's be sincere. If you take the gift of the patriarchal society for granted, then you and I will also become A member of the executioners." He said frankly, "In the voices of unanimous condemnation of the Tangshan attack, the violent shadows that gushed out made women stand together, empathizing with the victims' injuries and losses. The situation is like It wasn’t just those two brave women who were brought down, but other women were also brought down by that violence. Frankly, it was insecurity, not security, that made women allies, and that was the inexhaustible driving force for such public opinion.” The authorities' practice of silencing discussions.

At the same time, at noon on June 12, 2022, the news stated that a foreign object was thrown into a coffee cup by a student Yin Moumou while a student of Shanghai International Studies University was studying in the library.

At present, the students involved have been taken away by the public security organs for investigation.

After research, mainland netizens found that the so-called foreign body was actually medicine, saying "#上外一男学院下药# This is the correct title", which once again aroused the dissatisfaction of the female group.

Previously, in the Fengxian eight-child mother incident, the woman who was chained to her neck in the film was the mother of eight children.

(Video screenshot)

Many mainland women reposted the article "Women who work odd jobs, and their broken lives", saying that many women are not free and have low incomes because of their gender, and would rather work odd jobs to enjoy a greater sense of autonomy. For female workers who do odd jobs, they can have more leisure time after the heavy work, and the money they earn can not only support themselves, but also often support other family members. Therefore, they often embark on this path.”

However, the income from part-time jobs is not enough for these women to settle down in big cities, which use their labor but are reluctant to provide them with public services such as housing and education.

But they are tacitly expected to take care of children while working. "Considering the family burden of female workers, some factories will give female workers more freedom, such as implementing piece-rate wages, workers can set working hours, and even allow them to bring children. Come to work. As their children approach the senior high school and college entrance exams, many mothers feel that there is an invisible pressure around them to "study with them". "Studying with them" is indeed not "enjoyment". In the interviews, most of the mothers who accompanied them used "jail" to describe their lives.” They don’t want women to lose their rights because of their gender.

From the author's point of view, the above demands are not extreme.

Of course, what is extreme varies from person to person. Judging from the author's experience as a man, when I was in Japan, I encountered a female classmate who was scolded by a female classmate for helping the next classmate. I don't need a male explanation. The papers cited in the history-related final report speeches are all male authors, although the author admits that he will help the door regardless of whether the person following him is male or female, and most of the academic achievements published within the scope of the topic chosen by him will help. It's male, so I really can't help but wonder if these Japanese women are going too far.

There were also some episodes when I was in Korea. Some Korean female friends told the author that they complained that Korean girls often call themselves feminists, while accepting the traditional unreasonable phenomenon that Korean boys want to invite girls to dinner.

Therefore, in the author's opinion, the current mainstream views of mainland women have neither obvious double standards nor sharp points. In this case, regarding relevant gender topics as taboos or Western conspiracies, I am afraid it will further intensify gender conflicts.

Editor's note: The title of this article was added by the editor, and the original title was "Viewing the "Tangshan BBQ Restaurant Beating Incident" and Talking About the Recent Gender Issues of Mainland Youth".


Tangshan Beating | Eight-child mothers from Xuzhou go to Tangshan - the problem is in the underworld, and systematic gender-based violence Tangshan beats | Underworld forces are rampant, local demand that no one be missed, and one case is thoroughly punished for Tangshan beat | Chairman was reported to be beaten The Chifeng Police Station officially confirmed that it was transferred to the Anti-Underworld Office

Source: hk1

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