Interview｜Zhou Yongxin sighs dirty politics: everything is too much to ask Li Jiachao to let Hong Kong recuperate

The Lam Cheng era has entered the countdown stage. Emeritus Professor Zhou Yongxin of the University of Hong Kong accepted an exclusive interview with "Hong Kong 01". Looking back, he said that the social welfare decisions of previous governments were conservative. ", so that Hong Kong people can rest and recuperate: "Everyone will be quiet for two years. The past three years have been too chaotic. Oh, Hong Kong people, I am all!" Except for political disputes, don't touch it, and education, medical care and other systems should remain unchanged. Ever-changing, "When everyone decides to do it, we will do a good job in the actual grassroots medical care."

Zhou Yongxin, known as the "Father of Social Work", was criticized by Lam Cheng for not understanding economics in the "Resignation" campaign, but he actually studied economics and Chinese history.

Zhou Yongxin said that if you read history, you will understand that politics is dirty. Before his return, he had quit all political organizations, and he did not engage in politics, but he was not afraid to talk about politics.

The social welfare sector, which has always been the stronghold of the pro-democracy camp, has been targeted for rectification since 2019. Zhou Yongxin said that social workers believe in "empowerment" and uphold the value of "criticism." If it is tipped to one side, the boat will capsize; and the boat can be balanced only because some people have gone too far.

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Carrie Lam advertises social welfare and meritorious service to Zhou Yongxin: Overturning the unsolved problem of surrender of insurance

Sigh too much

Carrie Lam insisted on revising the Fugitive Offenders Ordinance during her tenure, causing the biggest political storm since her return. Zhou Yongxin said that with the change of government, all parties must rethink.

He said that starting from the anti-national religious movement and "Occupy Central", in the past ten years, society "sometimes went too far and passed the fire." "It's not good to do something that is detrimental to the stability of the ship."

Zhou Yongxin said that he has no intention of judging what is right and what is wrong, but if the right thing goes too far, problems will arise: "Democracy is a thing, but if you think that an election with only 'one person, one vote' is democracy first, or even if you don't do it, then Injustice is dead." He recalled the "831" decision of the National People's Congress, the democratic camp insisted on "every stage of 'one person, one vote', and the final failure was because the nomination had to be 'one person, one vote'. Mum! I wrote it at the time, and I didn't agree with it, and some people concluded that I was on the other side."

After the turmoil over the amendment, Beijing implemented the "Hong Kong National Security Law" in Hong Kong.

Zhou Yongxin said that there is nothing wrong with using heavy codes in a chaotic situation. "It's okay to say it, but if you go too far, you will be wrong. If you forgive, you will condone it. If you go too far, the society will be in chaos." He emphasized. All parties must be moderate. In the next two to three years, civil society must be rebuilt, focusing on non-political matters, such as taking care of the elderly and the weak: "No one is wrong, the establishment must take care of it, and social workers are even more important. Do more in this regard and cooperate. Much."

Call for no self-control panic, civil society reconstruction should be depoliticized

When asked about his views on the drastic changes in the current situation, Zhou Yongxin said that as a new law, the "Hong Kong National Security Law" will be considered very strict by everyone, but "sometimes I am surprised." "Identity and Values ​​of Hong Kong People" was removed from the shelves, "It's all about scaring yourself, what's the matter?" He said that there were indeed people around him who expressed concerns to him and planned to emigrate, including academics, social welfare, religious circles, and even students. , but he observed that many of the fears are unfounded. "Unless you have called on foreign countries to sanction China, you have captured people and copied their names during the riots. If not, there is no reason to fear at all."

Zhou Yongxin has repeatedly said that under the new political situation, first of all, don't create panic by yourself.

As for Zhang Chaoxiong, a former member of the Legislative Council, who is regarded as a moderate, and Yang Sen, a veteran of the Democratic Party, who were both arrested and sentenced to prison, Zhou Yongxin said that the two were arrested for their own reasons. The question is, am I the next one? Neither God, nor a judge. There are many things, no matter whether it is right or wrong, someone must say something about me and the mud. But the fact is that everyone has to be responsible for what they do. ; As for the right or wrong of the second person's actions, it's up to me, it's up to him!"

I would like to ask, you have signed your name and published a newspaper, but if you are really surprised by a situation, would you send someone to pull it?

Will the government pull you?

I'm not sure I know, but I'm sure I don't, or I made a mistake and was too ignorant.

You will definitely pull people, I will make another mistake and spread the fear left.

Zhou Yongxin talks about the "Hong Kong National Security Law"

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Zhang Chaoxiong and Yang Sen sentenced to prison Zhou Zanzheng: stronger than before

Zhou Yongxin has a deep relationship with Zhang Chaoxiong and Yang Sen.

Before Zhang Chaoxiong returned to teach in Hong Kong in the 1990s, Zhou Yongxin met him at a conference and even invited him to meet at the University of Hong Kong and invited him to teach in Hong Kong. "But he did not apply to us (Hong Kong University) at the end and went to Polytechnic." Yang Sen is even more of Zhou Yongxin's. A doctoral student, who had written correspondence in prison earlier.

Zhou Yongxin did not hesitate to praise the two of them for being upright and "good people": "I think they will fully bear the consequences, and will bear the burden for what they have done. As for Yang Sen, he will be imprisoned, pre-existing, how are you doing? Are you worried about me?" When asked if he would feel a pity, he said: "I believe that the two of them will bear the choices they have made. From my observation, both of them are stronger than before (become stronger than before) , especially Jan Sen."

Yang Sen came out and said, "I have no regrets, I am not wrong, but I have committed a crime in the law." You respect him for being right, why should I judge right or wrong?

He thinks that he is right and bears the consequences because of the crime, so he should be respected by others.

Zhou Yongxin talks about Yang Sen's prison sentence

Zhou Yongxin accepted an exclusive interview with "Hong Kong 01".

(Photo by Li Zetong)

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