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2022-08-05T05:48:32.217Z


I am researching the phenomenon of bibism from the dawn of its existence, trying to get to the bottom of the minds of the people who run around the country, equipped with megaphones, to spread the message of a family that is rotting the Israeli public. One of them is senior bibist Orli Lev, whose son, Menashe, contacted me this week with a surprising and touching letter


Without independent thinking, without statesmanship and without a backbone: the sect of Bibism, lines for its image

I am researching the phenomenon of bibism from the dawn of its existence, trying to get to the bottom of the minds of the people who run around the country, equipped with megaphones, to spread the message of a family that is rotting the Israeli public.

One of them is senior bibist Orli Lev, whose son, Menashe, contacted me this week with a surprising and touching letter

Ben Caspit

05/08/2022

Friday, 05 August 2022, 08:30 Updated: 08:38

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You can always convince the guys that without Bibi, all that will remain here is a dunam here, a dunam there (Photo: Reuven Castro)

A baby that was captured

The bibist spin of the last few days (apart from the ridiculous "economic plan" presented by Benjamin Netanyahu this week) focuses on the security issue.

Once, it was Netanyahu's forte.

He was "Mr. Security".

In the meantime, this bluff exploded with 13,000 rockets, 50,000 burned acres in the Gaza Strip, the first rockets in history on Israel's capital and a parade of flags that spread everywhere.

But hey, you can always convince the guys that without Bibi all that will be left here is a dunam here, a dunam there and a few orange trees.



According to this spin, in the negotiations with Lebanon on the economic waters Israel intends to give up everything, hand over Yitzhak Tshuva to Nasrallah, return the gas to Hezbollah and fold in shame. In the south, it is even better: "The south will be besieged for three days because of some thugs of 'Islamic Jihad!', they shout, 'It was not like this that Israel bows down to a kikioni terrorist organization and shuts thousands of people in their homes, this is really surrendering to terrorism!'

Bibi's spin: Israel intends to give up everything.

Shark rig (photo: official website, Energian company)

Needless to say, this is a collection of far-fetched fakes, like used incendiary balloons from last year.

The followers of the man who freed nearly 1,100 terrorists, including 400 murderers, in a disgrace deal with Hamas, accuse others of surrendering to terrorism.

Yanon Magal and I featured on Thursday, on our program on Radio 103, Major General in the Reserves Yaakov Amidror.

It was Yanon's request.

I assume that he strove to amplify the fictional narrative about Israel's shameful folding in all sectors, the surrender to terrorism, the relinquishment of strategic assets and the general failure.



Amidror was Netanyahu's national security advisor.

A self-proclaimed rightist, a former religious Zionist, with a knitted cap, supported Netanyahu throughout most of the past years, even in publications related to the submarine affair.

But, and here comes a big and significant but, Amidror is an honest man.

He is also a statesman.

Yes, I know that this phenomenon of personal honesty and statesmanship is disappearing from the world, probably some of its last remnants are embodied in Yaakov Amidror.

Happens.

Now pay attention to the live conversation between the three of us.

I bring here the main points, as they were said.

Let's start in the north, with the Hezbollah issue:



"Nasrallah is under unusual pressure, he has lost a significant part of his legitimacy in Lebanon," said Amidror, "in Gaza there is more electricity per day than in Beirut. The country has completely deteriorated, there are no medicines in the pharmacies, the number of hungry people is large... everyone knows that Nasrallah has a significant part in this mess. He is now trying to do the impossible. He understands that he has no choice and will not be able to delay the agreement again. He is trying to create a situation where he can say look, this agreement is good for Lebanon thanks to my threats."

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Yaakov Amidror bids farewell to the head of the National Assembly (Photo: Government Press Office, Kobi Gideon)

Yanon: The reports talk about Israel giving in to Lebanon's demands!



Amidror: "In negotiations, both sides give."

This is the meaning of the word.

Israel is in a different situation than Lebanon.

We extract gas from the Mediterranean Sea, the Lebanese are not there, our interests are not the same as theirs.

We have interests in continuing the status quo, as long as we are not disturbed.

The Lebanese interest is different, it is to enter... therefore, it is only natural that we say, what should be paid so that you do not disturb us... it is not a question of where the Israeli flag will be raised, it is an economic question, who will end up with more gas and more money."



Yanon: So you are saying that Israel's interest is only to be quiet?



Amidror: "Your definition is incorrect."



Yanon: There are economic interests here versus territorial interests!



Amidror: "There is no territorial question here at all.

This is not Jerusalem."



Yanon: Of course there is, of course there is!



Amidror: "No, not true. There is no territorial question here, but only a question of interpretation of international law, that the line should go at an X angle from the beach to the sea and they say it should go at a Vai angle."



Yanon: So yes it is about territory!



Amidror: "No, it's not about territory, but about the economy. Territory is where the border of the State of Israel passes, there are maps, that's clear, and we're fighting for it to the last meter. There are things that touch a historical debate, what is ours and what is not ours. Here, It's just the way they interpret what is written in the maritime law, and here there are different interpretations, as in many laws. There is no question of sovereignty here. In the end, the question is economic because we want to maximize our profits from the sea."

"The decision makers have the intelligence and the responsibility."

The Minister of Defense and the Chief of Staff at a discussion on assessing the situation following the situation in the Gaza Strip (Photo: Ministry of Defense, Nicole Laxby)

So it goes on and on.

Yanon Magal tried to explain to someone who was the commander of the Northern Command, the head of the research division at the AMN, the military secretary of the defense ministers, the head of the National Security Council and Benjamin Netanyahu's number one confidant for many years, that the negotiations with Lebanon are about territory. No Amidror helped nothing. Magel was locked. For him, "economic water" and the division of Jerusalem, that was it. It was about sovereignty!



It ended like this: "The Lebanese," said Amidror, "want to reach an agreement just like us.

The one who does not want to reach an agreement is Hezbollah.

We want an agreement, the Lebanese want an agreement, Hezbollah does not want an agreement, there is no reason to help it."



I asked Amidror if the thesis I heard from (very) senior decision makers and security officials that Israel has a direct interest in Lebanon also having a drilling rig in this area is true.

"We have a very great interest in the Lebanese having rigs in the sea, the more rigs they have, the more interest they will have that no one shoots at our rigs, because it will be clear what the reaction will be. So when you create a situation where both sides have a very similar loss at that point, for both sides There is no interest in harming these things, and we have a great interest in not being harmed by gas. We need to look and ask: Who doesn't want the agreement? Hezbollah. We want it, the Lebanese want it. So let's not help Hezbollah, let's help ourselves, if we have to give up some Kilometers, so it's necessary."



Now I come to the first part of the interview, which dealt with what is happening in the Gaza Strip.

"Do you think it's reasonable that the south is closed and besieged for three days?" Magal asked.

"The question is not whether it is reasonable in my opinion, but in the eyes of the professionals and the decision makers," Amidror answered.

A stately, proper, non-aggressive answer.

The man, who spent four decades of his life doing security, knows exactly how it works.

He knows that when the commander of the Gaza Division recommends to the commander of the Southern Command (Colonel Eliezer Toledano, who was Netanyahu's military secretary), based on accurate intelligence, to close certain roads, he has excellent reasons.

But, you guessed it, it didn't convince Mr. Magal.



Yanon: OK, OK, but we are a sovereign country!



Amidror: "The decision-makers have the intelligence and the responsibility, which the three of us do not have. In the end, this is a very delicate balance point, I know it well because I was for over three years commander of the Northern Command during the period when Katyushas were fired at Israel.

And you know that Katyushas are going to be fired and you ask yourself if you stop the roll or let life go on.

You know what the price of a mistake is.

You know what one anti-tank missile can do to a bus traveling on a route that you could have shut down at a not terrible cost to the residents. And then you have to explain to yourself and the residents what happened there. Therefore, the balance point should be left to the professionals, they have responsibility and they have intelligence. No. They don't need our advice, some of them live there, most of them have spent many, many years of their lives there in various positions."

From the signs of the Bibism cult: it is worth paying in children's lives to fuel a temporary fad (Photo: Avi Rokah)

Yanon did not give in and returned to his "sovereign state" rant.

Amidror: "So what do you propose? In the end, we have to ask what the alternative is. To say that it's not good, I also know. The alternative is to tell Jihad, you know what? We'll wait for you in the corner. Fire one missile, we'll blow your life away."



Yanon: True!



Amidror: "Good, now imagine that they shoot this missile and ten children on the bus are killed. Is it worth paying the price, or is it not worth paying the price? After that we will blow their faces and destroy Gaza. Is it worth paying the price or not?"



And here happened what made me bother you with this conversation: "Maybe so," replied Yanon Magal.



I ask myself, as someone who has been broadcasting with Magal for several years and thinks I know him.

There are things in it that I really like (you can jump to me), and there are (many) things that I don't.

But in the end, he is an intelligent person, a patriot and even loves people (provided he is Jewish according to Halacha, of course).

What caused him to blurt out the statement that there is a situation where the lives of ten Israeli children have to be paid for just to fuel a temporary phase of three days of difficulty on the routes of entry and exit from several settlements in the Gaza Strip.



The answer is simple: this is Bibism.

This is the hypnotized cult, the kidnapped babies, the kidnapped gang.

They lose all independent thought, they claim the remains of the spine, they destroy who and what they once were, in favor of that Bibiist "tirlol bubble" that sucks innocent souls into it and spits them back out hypnotized.

All I have left is to pray that one day they will come to their senses.

I forgive them in retrospect for everything.

Just let them return to independent thinking, to the casting of doubt, to the love of the kingdom and not the queen and the king.



Amidror did not give up the sickle: "I think differently than you," he said, "it is right at certain moments to take precautions. No one in Gaza has any doubt who is stronger, they are still licking the wounds of the operation from a year ago."



Yanon: With this method, every time there is an arrest of a senior member of the Yosh, the residents of the south will be besieged.



Amidror: "I don't remember this happening in the last two years. It's not every time. It's an unusual event, arrest whoever is responsible for the Islamic Jihad. We do this very rarely and it's happening now because the Jihad is under great pressure, because we took their leader from the house and we brought him to be interrogated by the Shin Bet.

In the end this balance is very complex.

Only when you sit inside, see all the material, live the lives of the residents, some of the commanders have served there for 20 years, in different positions, some of them live in the envelope and the sensitivity is familiar to them, they understand the matter, in front of this they put the possibility that we will not succeed in preventing the The single rocket fire and it will hit a bus killing five or twenty children, the question is whether it is worth paying the price.

In their opinion no, I don't think so either."



I would, perhaps, accept Magal's words if it was Aryeh Eldad, a true right-wing man, uncompromising, right-wing of an iron wall and not a Fason wall made of Rahab's speeches and statements.

But the words were said by a follower of someone who folded in front of Gaza countless times.

The one who said "yes" to all the cease-fire proposals at Eitan Cliff, even before the IDF threatened to take care of the tunnels (following pressure from Naftali Bennett). The man who promised to overthrow the Hamas regime in Gaza and instead transferred millions of dollars in cash to them every month. The man under whom fighters received The IDF in the north ordered to "shoot at the feet" of Hezbollah members who broke into Israeli territory and tried to storm the Gladiola outpost.

It's on Google, go see it.

The fear at the time was that the killing of the Hezbollah would ignite the northern sector, so the IDF "destroyed" them by shooting them in the legs, after they had crossed the fence and violated our sovereignty. So the followers of this leader, the most lax of Israel's leaders for generations, are now preaching morals. Ya'akov Amidror Nigev with them the floor,

what happened, mom?

I study the phenomenon of bibism from the dawn of its existence.

I do not mean the "fake and poison machine" that contains many additional components: hidden cyber arms, bots, robots, sock puppets, fake networks, recruited communication channels, compliant whistleblowers.

I am trying to get to the bottom of the mind and the depths of the soul of these people who run around day and night all over the country, equipped with megaphones and endless amounts of hatred, to spread the message of a family that has been rotting the Israeli public for years.



After all, they know the truth.

Or, at least they knew it once, before someone clicked the "delete" button and deleted their free will.

They know that their leader is the one who trained Mansour Abbas.

They know that Idit Silman was not a "slave of the Arabs", but rather Abu Yair, who swindled around Abbas Chromeo for ninety shekels for many months.

They know that this leader has done many more things to the left than to the right in his life.

They know that he has never kept a single promise and has not left a single political partner without a deep stab wound in his back.

They know that the man who is now trying to create the impression of a fighter against the cost of living has been living the lifestyle of a multi-millionaire tycoon for ages at the expense of others, sometimes at our expense.

They know all this.

deep inside.

So what happened to them?



If there is someone who symbolizes this group, the rudeness and the vulgarity and the shallowness and the ignorance but also the determination and the persistence and the devotion, it is Orly Lev.

She gained fame when she overcame a chorus of profanity and curses under the home of the Parkash family in Caesarea, the bereaved parents of the late pilot Captain Tam Parkash, who fell in the Second Lebanon. You know who sent her there.



Lev reminds me a little of myself. She was born, like me, in Holon. of 3 and a half years. I was, as I recall, a dedicated volunteer at the Likud branch in Holon. Later even the director of the election day in Holon (in the 80s). Then I became disillusioned. She didn't. On the contrary. She became an extreme Bibist and recently she declares that there are only two men in her life at the moment: Bibi and Ben-Gvir The day after Netanyahu, she is Ben-Gvir.

What is going on in the depths of the souls of the people who run around the country and spread the message of the Netanyahu family? (Photo: Yoav Itiel)

I was wrong about her.

Recently I was exposed to Lev's son, a captivating young man named Menashe.

One of her two children.

He's also crazy.

I took a look at his Facebook page, and was amazed.

Like his mother, only the other way around.

I met him.

A long, touching, amazing conversation.

A naval officer, politically indifferent.

He didn't vote the last few times and probably won't vote this time either (mistake, Menashe. Serious mistake).

Interested in environmental quality, global warming, air pollution, the quality of our lives in this place and in general.



Here is a personal letter that Menashe wrote to his mother, Orli Lev.

He gave it to me for publication.

Word for word:



"My dear mother, I miss you. My mother has been gone for two years. True, I got a substitute mother, the same name, the same look, even the same phone number, but the person... I immediately recognized that it was not you. Nevertheless, I I have known you for almost 40 years.



"You taught me over the years that a social and political worldview should come from common sense, from logic and not from camp. Half joking and half insulting, your nickname in your extended family was 'Shulamit Aloni', which never bothered you and would make you speak proudly of your choices, and was even one of the factors The first ones who taught me to study and read about a person's actions in order to judge, at least in my eyes, if he is a friend or an enemy. I learned that there are very few enemies, if any, but that there are people with different opinions and that a plurality of opinions is a strength.



"It was not easy to grow up under the religious, sectarian and political coercion that we grew up in. It was not easy to ignore the built-in enrichment in a family immigrating from Iraq where almost everyone feels disadvantaged, failed because of their origin, crime, corruption, violence, everything was our lot. But you, mother, you protected From all of this, you were immune, you taught that if you want and work to achieve goals, you will eventually reach them and the distant history, whether it is true, exaggerated or false, does not change anything. You were never religious. You had ambitions to immigrate to the USA, you were pacifist and liberal and in an extreme step By all accounts, you refused to enlist in the IDF under the auspices of 'Torati Amonati', lol, your views were peace-loving and you were a definite supporter of the Labor Party and the leftist camp."

Demonstration of support for Binyamin Netanyahu, November 22, 2021 (Photo: TPS, Shalu Amsalem)

Mom, in the end, you made me, you didn't just bring me into the world, you made who I am, judging by my resume and what I contribute to my environment, I think you did a pretty good job at all.

An officer in the navy, a hotel security officer with a long list of corrupt people and thieves that I exposed for my employers, a complete secularist, works for the environment, despises politics and spares no means to keep the straight path.



"Then, one evening at home, lightsabers wave on the screen, Obi-Wan suggests to Anakin not to try, I am transfixed, my wife draws my attention to an article she sees on the news, 'Likud activist Orli Lev is being interrogated with a warning in Blade 433 on suspicion of threats against Attorney General Avichai Mandelblit.



"Silence, looks, 'What?!

Likud activist?

Threats?

Mandelblit?

Who is Mandelblit anyway?

What does she have to do with it?'.


The next day I called you to understand what it was about, but I was already answered by someone pretending to be you and flatly refused to admit that it wasn't you.

She came to my house and started pouring out her message, about the Likud (only Bibi), about the assassination of Rabin (killed, not murdered), about the Oslo agreement (even though she never read it) and the pearls did not stop.



"Yes, mother, the one who replaced you inside your body thinks that Rabin was eliminated. Do you believe it? Not by Yigal Amir, by the Shin Bet.

I couldn't get information, I couldn't have a conversation, your impostor ran amok at my house, she has to take out all the passwords she was taught, finish things and leave.


Mom, you can't imagine what she's doing with your identity.


A complete loss of a human photographer.


She attacks bereaved families.


She declares people as traitors and enemies and accuses them of the entire public that follows her, people who gave their lives for security, political, public activity, in an instant, just because they think differently.

Into their houses, into their streets, into their children, she tries and succeeds in destroying people's lives.


Mila is one fanatic, but there are other people who follow her.

Maybe not many, but enough to pollute and pollute the entire atmosphere.

We are in the age of social networks and megaphones and overwhelming madness!

They don't know that someday we will find you and you will do justice to this impostor, but until that happens, the damages are enormous."

Soon the celebration will start again.

The Netanyahu family (Photo: Government Press Office, Avi Ohion, Israel)

"And anyway, what does that mean about a whole camp? A camp of dozens of mandates, who put an impostor at their head who only shouts slogans, if only they knew who she was impersonating, it is very likely that you would be with us today and not this troll. Mother, I don't know why you are not with us, by choice , out of duress, because you were paid, because you were promised, because you were brainwashed, but the longer this goes on, the harder it will be to do damage control. If there is an internet connection where you are, I suppose my letter will reach you, I I know you went through a very difficult time before it all started, I know you lost everything. There may very well be a connection between the things, but is what is happening right now worth it?



"Let's assume for a moment that everything is true, that Bibi is the number 1 ruler in the entire universe, everything else is a plot, everything is legal corruption of a system that wants to overthrow a prime minister who has and will never be second to him, that the champagnes were not pink, that the cigars were even stuffed with meat and the 'maids' that were thrown away They were not of Ethiopian origin at all, they were tanned Norwegian women, we do need more submarines, one for the Kinneret, one for the Dead Sea and a small one for the lake in Superland. So isn't it enough to go to the polls and vote for him? He will win health, he won't win, not bad next time... people They want something else... democracy. A prime minister of one kind or another, as long as he is elected, is unlikely to lead Israel to destruction.



"The incitement, the incitement, the refusal to accept different opinions, the desire of a huge part of the people to become a monarchy, they will bring us to the brink of an abyss, the only question What remains is if we stop in time.



If you stop in time.



Soon the celebration will start again, they will blame a government that barely managed to be a member, that all of Israel's troubles are because of it, was it good or not?

Not interesting, at least not to me, even if they were the worst possible, then go to the polls and vote against.



traitors?

enemies?

Are you moving?

Where did we get to?!



"Mom, it's been almost two years since the disconnection, the night your impersonator was sent to attack an entire family, that was the red line where the imposter went from being ridiculous to being dangerous.



"This is the night I realized that my mother will no longer post a photo with her grandchildren, that my mother will no longer talk about life, culture or just the weather, that all that remains of my mother is a pale shadow, shouting, screaming and harmful. I implore you to stop for a moment and think For what you do, in ten-twenty-thirty years, may nature take its course and this man who kidnapped you, Benjamin, will make his place in the world, in a good return with a pink and bubbly glass by his side, when the sound of shots from the nearby golf course will fill the air and every city in Israel will have a beach A submarine of her own, you will only be left with the damages, without memories, without honor, without a family but with a Facebook page full of hate.



Please come back. Your loving son, Menashe."

There is nothing like a mother

I take into account that the response of Bibism would be to publish the letters that my late father, Yitzhak, used to send to the Netanyahus.

So like this: they have already published them.

Not this one either, Mrs. Netanyahu included it in a libel lawsuit she filed against me (there was no connection between the letters and the subject of the lawsuit).



This, and more: I am very proud of everything my father was, and also of his letters.

Everyone who knows me also knows these letters and the fact that I abandoned the Likud but my father did not, even the other way around.

He was a member of Likud and a bibist until his last day of cognition.

We argued, argued, fought, like in every family and living room in Israel.

I took care of him, even when he no longer recognized me, until he passed away last year.

He would never have thought of insulting an entire family.

He himself has a bereaved family (his elder brother, the late Israel, was killed in the last battle of Givati ​​on the southern front in the War of Liberation). He would not have thought of doing a thousandth of what Lev, Rami Ben-Yehuda and their friends are doing to anyone who dares to raise a hand, or a voice, against Babyism.



Menashe's letter is published here at his request, which touched my heart.

He misses his mother.

I wish for the day that all friends, siblings, parents and lost relatives who have been drawn into the current depths of madness, will come back to their senses.

You don't need to support Yair Lapid, Benny Gantz, Avigdor Lieberman or Gideon Sa'ar.

All in all, it is necessary to understand that even those who are not captivated by Netanyahu's charm are legitimate people, and not everyone who is not convinced that before Bibi today there are only oranges here, is not a "terrorist supporter".

Because in the end, we must not forget that the kingdom that all these are trying to set on fire is much more important than the king and even the queen.

And there is no one like a mother.

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