Talia Ovadia recovers from "Big Brother": "I just wanted it to end" | Israel today

Last Saturday, Talia Ovadia left the "Big Brother" house with a million shekels and a dream partner, after being crowned the biggest winner of the season.

This is probably the most talked about and most successful season of the show on Network 13, a season that dominated the top of the ratings charts throughout the summer, but for Talia, the road to victory was full of difficulties and crises that made her want to leave the house much earlier.

"At least twice I went into my brother's room and told him, 'That's it, I'm done, now I'm leaving,'" she recalls, less than two days after the end of the huge adventure she embarked on, "but in the same breath it was also clear to me that if I really gave up, it would be difficult for me Very much to live with myself afterwards."

What made you stay?

"I couldn't give up, I really hoped that the viewers at home would decide for me. I wanted them to dismiss me and that the departure would not be up to me, but that the viewers would choose her and that I would be done with it."

In retrospect, are you glad you didn't retire?

"I'm very glad I didn't retire. It strengthened me and sharpened me, and everything I went through there - I had to go through. I remember going in and saying to my brother, 'I'm bad, I'm bad, like I've had bad in my life. I want to go.'"

"I told him, 'That's it, I'm done, now I'm getting out of here.'"

Talia in the "big brother" room, photo: 13

What made you feel bad?

"I lived with the feeling that I don't exist. Not only that I don't exist, but also that they don't like me. You're in a house full of people, but you're alone and they don't like you. And not only that, you walk around with them all day. I would wake up in the morning and walk around the house with a lot of fear In order not to annoy anyone, because you no longer have the strength to deal with more yelling, and also to see in front of your eyes everyone who hurt you, it's not easy. In my real life, if I don't feel well - I go home, go to bed and I'm alone and things work out." .

Childhood is a little different

Talia's story begins 29 years ago.

She was born in Rishon Lezion and lives in Herzliya.

For her living she works in digital marketing for businesses and fashion design.

She is the sandwich child of Shmuel, 56, who owns an engraving business, and Orly, 55, a tax consultant.

She is the younger sister of Chen, 32, a lawyer, and the older sister of Shahar, a soldier in the IDF.

"I had a slightly different childhood," she says.

"There was his personality in the house that took up a lot of space. I raised myself and was to myself. On the one hand, it instilled in me a lot of independence, and a lot of aloneness, but also a lot of guardianship. I don't have this place to come and open up. I'm used to talking to myself and keeping to myself and not letting it out."

Is this something that bothers you to this day?

"It was a matter that my parents had to take care of and be completely in, and at the time I didn't understand it. I remember that I also complained to them and told them, 'Hello, I'm here.' A lot of frustration, and I am constantly under limits to understand when I will get a response and the attention of my parents. I would leave the house and not come back until seven in the morning to check when they would write to me."

How is the relationship today?

"They are amazing. I think my whole life I wanted to get to this point. From this place where I don't exist, I got to this situation where they love me and are very proud of me."

We always seek the approval of our parents.

"True. Even if I said no, subconsciously I was always looking for their approval, and today I really understand that this is exactly what I needed."

Did you have a moment alone with them to understand that they are proud of you?

"Not yet, but I'm really looking forward to it and I want to hear from them. Even in the small moments we did have, it was never to the end because there were cameras, but I know they are satisfied."

"I'm very glad I didn't retire."

Talia at the "Big Brother" house,

In high school she studied in the 8th comprehensive school in the city majoring in art.

"I wasn't the best student and I had a lot of things that bothered me all around. I had one notebook for all the subjects. I understood very quickly, and when they were late I would lose interest and couldn't go back."

How was it socially?

"I was never exceptionally accepted. A friend or two, we used to stay during the break in class and make jokes."

I actually imagine you in a group of girls.

"There was such a period of several years and some of them are still my friends."

She enlisted as an observer and towards the end of her internship she moved to the position of facility security in the Air Force.

"I understood that it was a blessed and good role, but I had a hard time with it," she recalls.

"The process of the army was not easy for me. For me to enter a framework where you do not have a say or the ability to decide, it is not easy, and that is why I transferred to the Air Force. Today I think it was a mistake, because I have the understanding that if I had done this role, I would have had a lot Satisfied with it and it's a shame that I gave up. I chose comfort, and it's a shame."

When she was released from the army, she enrolled in fashion design studies at "Concept" for a period of almost two years.

At the end of her studies, she opened a coffee cart business in the stock market.

"The plan was to open a few such points in Israel and only then to focus on fashion, when I am more financially established, but that ended my life. I decided to give up the money and went with my heart, and returned to work in fashion."

Starting a business at the age of 23 is a serious matter.

"I always had the ambition to create and conquer. After I closed, I started managing the studio of the designer Danit Levy for three years, until the corona virus started."

How was the corona period for you?

"I was at home a lot. I had a lot of time to think and I just started drawing sketches of what I want to do in my business."

What did you do for a living before the brother?

"Social media for clinics in the field of medical aesthetics. I have a passion for taking something and improving it. If it's designing a dress and dressing someone and making her wow, and even if it's an Instagram page."

live in your own shadow

Then came the phone call that changed her life.

On the line: from the "Big Brother" band.

The offer: participate in the new season.

And as in the best stories, she didn't want to at all, but a few months later she ended up winning.

"A few years ago, a friend signed me up for auditions in the season in which Tikva won, and it didn't happen. Now they contacted me and I went, but this time I didn't want it. I go to the auditions, come home, feel that they want me on the show, but I tell myself that I'm not going ".

What made you change your mind?

"My mother convinced me. She told me, 'Stop living in your own shadow and come in.' So I said, 'Come on, I'm coming in.'"

When did you realize you were in?

"I was never in the position I wanted to be, but after two weeks I was already flowing with the idea."

What were the considerations?

"It's strange to say, but I didn't want to lose my anonymity. I really like the fact that I'm not known. I sometimes talk to people who studied with me and they didn't know me, and I love that."

How does that stack up with the decision to go on the most watched show on TV?

"It was important to me to change what people think of me. I come across to people in a different way than who I really am. I hear a lot that there is something unapproachable about me, something not nice, threatening and condescending. I think there is something about my appearance that sometimes goes over badly, and shyness and quietness are interpreted as Don't come near me', but that's not the truth. I always wanted love and to have many friends, but in practice I would hear that both men and women were shying away from me. In the end I weighed the pros and cons. When I walk down the street I attract attention and I I'm aware of that. So I said to myself, okay, in the worst case, now more people will know me, and maybe it can be annoying, but at least I'll be more accessible."

Did you think it would reach these dimensions?

"No, until the last minute inside the house I thought no one was watching at all. Who would have imagined that this was the magnitude of the show."

She entered the house a little after everyone else, according to the ex-wife of the tenant Eliav Teti.

She hadn't even had time to go down the stairs, and she was already marked by Bar Cohen, the tenant who would eventually be the last one to sit next to her in the house.

"There's something about me that she doesn't like," she claims.

"She doesn't know how to eat me and I don't go down her throat. We are very different and it bothered her."

"They will not survive in reality."

Diane and Nathaniel,

She claimed you are an actress and she is real.

"She defines it that way because these are things she doesn't recognize herself and she can't identify with them, so she interprets them as unreal. With Bar, the painful things come out in shouts, and I keep more to myself, although I would be happy if I was less guarded."

Certainly not when Eliav is in the picture of the two of you.

"From my point of view, I saw the emotional zigzagging and his looks, but it made me hypersensitive to her, because I knew he wasn't there like she was there, and it hurt me."

Do you think it could work between them?

"No, and I don't think she will have patience for him."  

How would you feel if you lost to her?

"I wasn't aware of the things that were said about me behind my back. After I left the house they told me and showed me things, and now that I'm aware of everything, I don't understand it at all. It saddens me that she came in second place, how? How did people like it?" .

"Even harsher things were said there than what you saw."

bar,

Diane, Nathaniel and Sharin joined the bar, and Kazem and Dina didn't spare her criticism either.

In today's era it is called a boycott.

In one of the most difficult episodes of the season, she received a barrage of verbal violence that was harsh and difficult to watch.

"I got to see this segment," she says and takes a deep breath.

"I can say that no matter how restrained and calm my reaction seemed, my heart was at 3,000. Even harsher things were said there than what you saw on the show."

Which?

"Bar came to me and said to me, 'We saw your Instagram and you were naked there, and suddenly you are reading us the Psalms here.' Diane told me, 'The fact that you added the name of the name to your name does not make you any kind of person, you have a shocking personality and a shocking human being.'" .

You stand there, everything is filmed and the whole country and your family sees it.

what's going through your mind

"I was in such a state of shock that I no longer remembered that there were cameras. I thought I was going to die in a moment. It's so hard that I didn't even cry. It's a storm of emotions that you don't know how to contain. I sat on the floor and I had a feeling of what happened here now and how the hell do I continue to live in this house

"I remember coming back to the room and seeing some of the tenants laughing, and it completely finished me. It's a feeling I can't tell you in words, but it's one of the hardest moments I've experienced in my life. I said to them, what makes you laugh?"

You met everyone again this week, what things did you discover that you didn't know?

"You're the filth behind my back, and it's great that I didn't know, because if I had known - I wouldn't have survived it. I didn't know that Brev said she was ashamed that I was his ex, or that if we were out she would have slapped me. I was also disappointed by what Dina and Kazem said."

Who were you most disappointed with?

"Madina, I did not expect it to reach such levels. She is someone I was only looking to prepare for and do good to, and I did not imagine this side of her. I also did not believe that these were the levels she reached."

"I didn't imagine this side of her."

Dina,

Who were you pleasantly surprised by?

"Sheaf pleasantly surprised me even more than what I had already seen at home. At home I had reservations and many things that distracted me. In the last week you make a kind of summary, and Seagull was right under my nose and I didn't see him enough, but now I see and appreciate."

Everything bothered her

Throughout the season, Ovadia maintained a restraint reserved for individuals.

While the residents of the house were swimming in their own slime, she never went near there and preferred to deal with carrots, tahini and eyeliner.

She was also one of the victims of Diane Schwartz, who will forever be remembered as one of the most controversial tenants in the history of the format, partly because as a tenant she did not spare criticism from anyone, including her partner, and when she came out she herself caught a huge wave of criticism from the viewers.

"In conclusion, I am very sorry for what happened to her, it is unpleasant and I do not wish anyone to go through such a thing. I think it was a mistake for her to enter in the first place and I do not understand who the agent is who knows her and approved her to enter. Diane is not a person who should to enter the 'Big Brother' house, yet I looked for the good in her and also understood why this behavior comes out of her. It also helped me deal with it personally."

I feel that you are a little holding yourself back from saying what you really think.

"You saw everything yourself and I don't think there's anything more to add. Diane didn't spare us anything. But nothing. She had very harsh words. She was constantly taking down, taking down and taking down and taking down again. I remember there were times when I would pass by her and she would say to me, 'But why are you walking bent over'. Everything bothered her."

Did she apologize to you?

"In the filming of 'Coming Home', when we gave her a chance to apologize, she chose to apologize to Bar and not to me."

Did you expect her to apologize to you?

"A little, and mainly I had hope that because of the difficult experience she went through, she would understand what happened and apologize, but it turns out that she really didn't understand until the end and shame on her."

In your private life do women cheer you on?

"There are women I don't move on to and they are less supportive."

Even outside the house, a serious and strong army was mobilized to help you, and on the other hand, many claimed that they did not connect with you.

"Apparently for some people I touch the worst places and for other people the best, but yes, it's either black or white."

Did you get less good responses?

"I'm sure there is, but I haven't encountered it yet. In the meantime, apart from the tenants in the house, I've only received love."

You didn't have it easy with Nathaniel either.

"With Nathaniel it was very difficult for me because it goes beyond the tones. There is something very scary about Nathaniel, the scary looks, the eyes, the voice that rises and the screams. Nathaniel made me cry a lot. There is something in a loud voice that screams really hard words that finishes you, and that was exactly Nathaniel."

Were you afraid of him?

"Yes, in retrospect when I saw his ID card I understood a little where things stemmed from, but it's still not an excuse. There are many people who have gone through difficult things in life and turned it into a fix. I hope he will watch and know how to take it to a good place."

"I understand the difficulty of the last few days."

Nathaniel,

You really fought last week too.

"There was a situation when Shaf and I got into bed and the brother said something to us and woke everyone up. Nathaniel got up nervously and tried to slam the door hard. What you probably didn't see is that a few days before we shot the clip for the finale at home, and he once again got angry and went out of his way, but like at the beginning of the season. I understand the difficulty of the last few days. You expected that maybe he would hold back, but he can't."

How despite everything did you not fall into screaming or personal lines?

"It was easy for me not to fall into the low place, because from a young age our parents instilled good values ​​in us, these places that some of the tenants reached - do not exist for me. I can raise my voice from time to time, but not to hurt another human being the way they hurt me, and no No matter what they would do to me - it would not come out of me."

Some interpreted it as nobility and some interpreted it as a game.

"I was at home filmed 24 hours a day for three months, and even if I am an actress at the level of winning an Oscar, it is impossible to act for such a long period of time. If it was an act - it would have exploded a long time ago, certainly in the difficult mental states that were there. I was busy surviving a day "A day and I just wanted it to end."

Can we also say that their horrible behavior towards you is what brought you closer to victory?

"I think my reaction, my dealing with their behavior, is what brought me closer and brought me to victory. To the same extent, it could have brought me down, both in terms of reaction and mentally, but fortunately I didn't fall there."

Will Diane and Nathaniel survive reality?

"No".

does not lessen the guilt

Ovadia met Eliav at home, the ex she met when she sold him a shirt when she worked as a saleswoman in a clothing store, and took her on a date in the car with Sudoch.

At home, as expected, things got complicated, and inevitably became the most unclear love triangle in the history of reality TV.

"I didn't know that Eliav had entered the house, and even if I had known that he had entered, I would have entered," she declares.

How did you feel when you saw him?

"I thought to myself, 'What's the deal with him being here?', but the token fell only when Ofek told me that he had something with someone at home. Only then did I understand what was going to happen to me, but I didn't understand to what extent. I think that Eliav was not clear to me before, nor At home. I remember when we were dating there was a situation where I said that in many ways he was everything I wanted on paper, but I can't connect emotionally."

When you saw him for the first time at home did you have a pinch?

"No, and even if I knew he was inside it wouldn't have stopped me from going in."

How would you summarize the experience with him?

"After I left, traveling between all the interviews, I went into Tiktok and saw an interview of his in which he says, 'Talia won't win, and if she is the winner after all - she should bring me royalties.' When we returned to filming at home, I sat with everyone in the living room and said to him, , I heard that I need to bring you royalties'. He of course fell silent. That says it all."

Have you talked since the final?

"After I won, he came up to me and congratulated me."

Did you see the part where he cries in the finale?

"Yes, I didn't understand what happened there with the crying."

Do you have an explanation for this?

"I don't think anyone has."

השהות שלה בבית הלכה והסתבכה כשפגשה את אופק, ובין השניים נרשמה התקרבות, אינטימיות מהסוג שיכול לקרות רק בבית האח. "אופק הוא היחידי שנטרל שנייה את ההגדרה של 'האקסית של' וניגש אלי בסבר פנים טובות", היא מספרת על החיבור. "אני מסתכלת לו בעיניים ואני קוראת את כל הגלגלים והם מסובכים מאוד. הרבה דברים שלא מצאתי באף אחד, ואני מכירה בעצמי. זה בן אדם שלא חושב בצורה רגילה, הוא חושב בצורה מאוד מיוחדת ומאוד התחברתי לזה, מאוד יכולתי להכיל ולהבין את זה, ונוצר שם חיבור מאוד עמוק וגדול. בתוך כל הלבד שהיה לי שם והעליהום, הייתי צריכה את הפאן של החום מבחינה פיזית, וזה קצת בלבל אותו לצערי. אני מבינה אותו לגמרי".

והוא קיבל תחושה שבאמת קורה משהו?

"כן, ויש לי חלק בזה, לא מפחיתה מהאשמה, אבל אני ראיתי את זה נטו כחברות טובה ובן אדם שאני מאוד אוהבת".

היה שלב שחשבת שיכול לקרות משהו?

"לא היה שלב כזה, אבל אני זוכרת שעטפתי את זה קצת ואמרתי שזה בגלל המצלמות, בשביל שלא יהיה ברקס עד הסוף, כדי שהפגיעה תהיה פחות חמורה".

את מבינה שזו היתה טעות?

"חד־משמעית, אופק נפגע ממני כי זה לא היה הדדי. אחר כך הגיעו העקיצות מהצד שלו וסלחתי, כי אני יודעת שגם לי היה חלק בזה, אבל העקיצות השפיעו עלי, ונוצר מצב שמחברות מאוד קרובה התרחקנו מאוד".

וזה כאב לך?

"בדיעבד אני מבינה שכן, ואם יכולתי לשנות כמה דברים בבית, זה אחד מהם".

איך היה המפגש שלכם בצילומים השבוע?

"לאופק ודינה היה אישיו עם התומכים שלי. דינה העלתה את הנושא, והיה לו מאוד חשוב לתחזק אותו, לא משנה כמה ניסיתי להסביר לו שאני לא יודעת על מה מדובר, הוא ממש התעקש לדבר על זה".

מה היתה הטענה שלהם נגד התומכים שלך, בעצם?

"שהם דורסניים".

אחרי המשבר שלכם הוא התקרב יותר לבר.

"היו שם הרבה סתירות בדברים שלו, במיוחד לגבי בר, אבל זה כבר שלו".

אמרת בבית שאת רוצה להתנצל בפניו, זה קרה?

"אני לא יודעת להסביר, אבל אתה מכיר את זה שמישהו מסתכל עליך, ורק מהמבט אתה מבין הרבה? זה מה שקרה לי איתו. הבנתי שאנחנו לא במקום של שיח וגם לא התנצלות. עצם העובדה שאמרתי שאני מקווה שהוא יסלח לי, הוא בטח מבין שיש בי חרטה".

כדי להבין את הקושי של טליה להתמסר ולהתאהב צריך לחזור איתה אחורה. היא עוד לא בת 30, וכבר חוותה ארבע מערכות יחסים. מהנתונים האלה אפשר להעריך שמדובר בבן אדם זוגי, אז מה בכל זאת עצר אותה מלהתאהב בבחור הכי יפה בבית? "הייתי בארבע מערכות יחסים רציניות בחיי, ובכל אחת מהן למדתי מה אני צריכה ומה אני לא רוצה. לאט־לאט למדתי מה טוב לי ומה פחות", היא מסבירה.

נפרדו ממך או שאת נפרדת?

"אף פעם לא נפרדו ממני, אבל תמיד היתה סיבה. במערכת היחסים עם החבר הראשון שלי, אמא שלו לא אהבה אותי. היא היתה הולכת לחברים שלו ואומרת להם, תעיפו את המכשפה מהבן שלי. היא גם היתה זורקת הערות ועקיצות בסגנון 'אל תגידי שאת מרוקאית'. במערכת היחסים השנייה שלי, אמא שלו לקחה כיסא והושיבה את שנינו על הספה ואמרה לנו, 'מצטערת, טליה, את חמודה, אבל לדעתי אתם לא מתאימים', ונפרדנו. מהסיבה הזאת, במערכת היחסים האחרונה שלי לא הגעתי אליו הביתה יותר מחצי שנה. אחרי שהגעתי אליו הביתה, אבא שלו אמר שהוא לא מסכים לנו לצאת. הבחור שיצאתי איתו הלך לרב והוא אמר שאם נתחתן אנחנו נתגרש. וזה כבר שבר אותי".

הוא רצה שתיפרדו בגלל שהרב אמר?

"הוא ניסה שנישאר יחד, אבל ברגע שהוא שם את המהות שלי בידיים של מישהו אחר, זה כבר היה אבוד מבחינתי ואין מקום לחזרה. כשזה קרה בפעם השלישית, נשברתי ונכנסתי לדיכאון. לא הצלחתי לפתח יותר רגשות. זה גרם לי לרתיעה מלהראות את עצמי, והתחלתי להרגיש שמשהו לא בסדר בי. היה פה כבר רצף של אירועים, והתחלתי לחשוב שכנראה אני לא בסדר, וזה ערער אותי".

צעד קדימה, שלושה אחורה

ואז הגיע הדובדבן שבקצפת. שחף, פרסומאי תל־אביבי, חתיך, ערכי, פיינליסט שדורג במקום השלישי. עשרה קבין של סבלנות ירדו לעולם, תשעה וחצי מהם לקח שחף, שלא ויתר עד שכבש את ליבה. מסוג החיזורים הלא נגמרים שהזכירו לי את מרדית גריי וד"ר שפרד בעונות הראשונות של "האנטומיה של גריי". בדיוק כמו בטלנובלה טובה, רגע לפני שהגבר מתייאש, היא תופסת אותו ברגע האחרון והם מתאהבים.

"התהליך עם שחף היה שונה ממה שהכרתי. בדרך כלל זה התחיל מקראש ראשוני ומשם דברים מתפתחים, ופה זה לא קרה", היא מסבירה. "אני זוכרת שנכנסתי הביתה והוא לחץ לי את היד ולא ראיתי אותו כאופציה, ולא כי הוא לא נראה טוב, הוא חתיך הורס".

אז למה לא?

"גם כי היה האישיו עם אליאב ברקע וגם כי זה לא קרה. אין לי הסבר לזה. בבית ראיתי כל פעם משהו שהוא עשה ומאוד אהבתי, ערכים שהזדהיתי איתם, וזה נבנה לאט־לאט, אבל היה צעד קדימה ושלושה אחורה".

נשמע שחיפשת תירוצים למה זה לא יכול לקרות.

"היתה לי אכזבה מקשר קודם, והגעתי לבית עם מגננה. לא היה לי כוח לעבור את זה שוב. חיפשתי את הבעיות והעברתי אותו דרך לא קלה. יש בשחף הבנה והכלה שאני מעריצה. אם היינו בחוץ זה לא היה עובד בחיים, אבל בסופו של דבר לקח זמן וזה קרה".

את מאוהבת?

"כן. שחף גרם לי להרגיש תחושות שלא הרגשתי הרבה זמן. בטח לא צמרמורת ממילה או מליטוף. אני מדברת איתך עליו ויש לי צמרמורת בבטן. שחף דאג לי ברמות הכי גבוהות שהיו לי בחיים. אם אני אוכלת, שותה, אם קר לי, איך אני נושמת ואיך אני מרגישה. בשום מערכת יחסים, גם של שנים, לא דאגו לי כמו שהוא דאג לי בתקופה הקצרה הזאת. בהתחלה היה לי קשה לקבל את זה, כי אני לא מכירה את זה, אבל ברגע שהבנתי שזה אמיתי, הכל השתחרר לי".

שחף ראה אותך.

"הוא הכיל אותי והיתה לו סבלנות שאני לא יודעת מאיפה הוא הביא את הכוחות האלה. אני במקומו הייתי מחפפת אותי מזמן לקיבינימט".

לפעמים דווקא הקשה להשגה יותר מושך אותנו.

"לא אצלי. אם יש משהו שמוריד לי, הוא שעושים עלי שרירים ומשחקים איתי משחקים".

חששת ממערכת יחסים בבית?

"ברור, אני בן אדם שצריך את החופש שלו. פחדתי שאם יקרה משהו וייגמר, אני אצטרך לחיות עם זה בבית. בסופו של דבר, כשידעתי שיש עוד רק שבוע אחד, נתתי לזה לקרות".

דיברתם מאז?

"עוד לא ישבנו בארבע עיניים. אני מחכה לזה מאוד".

מה הדבר הראשון שתגידי לו?

"וואו, יש לי מלא. אני מאמינה שגם נדבר על מה שקרה בצילומים, כי היו שם דברים שכאבו לשנינו. יש דברים שלא ידענו שהם קורים והיינו בהלם".

מישהו מהאקסים התקשר אחרי הניצחון?

"הבחור האחרון, אותו אחד שהלך לרב, ששרט לי את הנשמה ובגללו נאטמתי. הוא אמר שההורים שלו עכשיו רואים אותי בפן אחר והם אוהבים מאוד את מה שהם ראו".

ומה ענית לו?

"שאני מאוהבת שיא".

זה סגר את הפצע?

"יש דברים שאי אפשר לסגור, אבל זה עשה תחושה טובה. אני זוכרת שאמרתי לו 'שרטת לי את הנשמה', וזה משהו שהיתה לו השפעה עלי הרבה מאוד זמן".

באסה שאהבו אותה

היא גבוהה ורזה מאוד, ורוב הזמן בבית אכלה בעיקר טחינה, גזר וירקות אחרים. הרגלי האכילה שלה העסיקו מאוד את הרשת בשלושת החודשים האחרונים. "יש הרבה דברים שאני לא אוהבת לאכול מגיל קטן, לא כי אני רוצה לשמור על גזרה", היא מסבירה. "לא הייתי לוקחת כריך, כי אני לא אוהבת שהוא הופך לעיסה בפה, ואני לא אוכלת אבוקדו או בננה וגבינות".

זה כשהיית קטנה, מה הרגלי האכילה שלך היום?

"בשנים האחרונות התבגרתי וגם נוצר אלמנט של מודעות לבריאות. בחיים הפרטיים שלי אני אוכלת דגים, ביצים בכמויות גדולות, אבל כשאתה בבית האח ואתה מוגבל בתקציב, אין לך אופציה. בבית אני יכולה לעשות חביתה משש ביצים, בבית האח היו עורפים לי את הראש. גם לא יכולתי להזמין סלמון שעולה 90 שקל לקילו".

את יכולה להבין למה זה נתן דוגמה לא טובה?

"אם הייתי יודעת שזה מתפרש ככה, הייתי דואגת שזה יעבור אחרת. מישהו שמאוד קרוב לליבי סבל מהפרעות אכילה, אני יודעת איך נראות המחלקות הסגורות, והיום כשאני רואה שמחברים את השם שלי לצמד המילים הזה, זה כמו בוקס בבטן עבורי. אני בחיי הפרטיים אוכלת בריא, טוב ומסודר, וזה ממש לא נובע משמירה על פיגורה, כי גם כשלא הייתי אוכלת בריא, ואוכלת שלוש פעמים בשבוע שווארמה, הייתי רזה, אפילו יותר רזה".

ככל שהעניינים בבית הסתבכו, כך גדל מספר המעריצים והתומכים, שהפכו בעצמם לתופעת רשת, והם בין היתר שהביאו לה את הניצחון. אבל עוד קודם, דקות אחדות אחרי שהוכרזה כמנצחת, טליה הצהירה בשידור חי שמבחינתה היא תישאר חברה של בר. היא ישבה על אותו הכיסא שבו ישבה בר בעצמה דקות אחדות קודם לכן והצהירה בדיוק ההפך. עכשיו היא נשמעת אחרת לגמרי.

"כשישבתי אצל קובי מחט והתראיינתי, לא ידעתי שזה מה שיצא ממנה בבית. וואו, אני חוזרת בי ואני לא אהיה חברה שלה. ההתנהגות של בר היתה הרבה יותר חמורה ממה שחשבתי, ולא נהיה חברות".

דמיינת ששתיכן תשבו יחד אחרונות?

"לא, ואחרי שראיתי כמה קטעים זה עצוב לי מאוד. אחרי שראיתי מה יצא ממנה, באסה לי שאהבו את הדבר הזה".

איך את מסבירה את זה?

"אין לי תשובות. לא צפיתי בפרקים המלאים ואני גם לא אצפה כנראה, אין לי הסבר לזה".

מה עובר לך בראש לפני ההכרזה?

"אני יושבת שם ואני קרובה לזכייה ברמה של חמישים אחוז, ועדיין לא האמנתי שאני אקח את זה. חשבתי שהצופים יזדהו דווקא עם האמא שצריכה לדאוג לילד שלה. אולי רק הנמכתי ציפיות".

רוב הדיירים לא שמחו בניצחון שלך.

"נכון, היו מעטים מאוד ששמחו בשבילי, כמו מרינה, דניאל, ריוואה ושחף. כל השאר לא שמחו בשבילי וגם בצילומים אחרי זה הם המשיכו בקו הזה. היו הרבה התלחששויות, וחשבתי לעצמי, כבר ראיתם איך זה נראה ואתם עדיין ממשיכים? אבל זה כבר שלהם ואין לי מה להגיד".

אני יכול להסיק מזה שגם לא היה לך נעים לחזור לצילומים.

"לא, הייתי מוותרת על זה באהבה. חוסר הפרגון הזה שהיה בתוך הבית המשיך אצל הרוב גם אחרי כן, ועייפתי ממנו".

מה טליה של היום היתה אומרת לטליה של לפני שלושה חודשים?

"שזה הולך להיות תהליך קשה ומאתגר, אבל בו בזמן היא חייבת אותו לנפש כמו אוויר לנשימה. שהיא הולכת להתחזק, להתחשל ולא משנה מה - אסור לה להישבר".

ושאלת המיליון, מה תעשי בכסף?

"אין לי עדיין תוכניות. אולי לקחת משכנתא ולקנות דירה, אולי לעסק".

הבטחת מעשר.

"Of course, for years I have been praying that I would have the option to have enough to help. I need a moment to help and plan how and for whom. I want it to go to several goals"

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