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"Am I a police informant against Netanyahu? I'm proud of what I did and what I didn't do" "Am I a police informant against Netanyahu? I'm proud of what I did and what I didn't do" Eight years after the interview with him in Walla! Baranja was shelved due to what became File 4000, Ben Caspit returns to the "Correction Interview": on New Year's Eve and the elections, he assesses in the Israel Press Institute podcast: "Netanyahu will not reach 61", "It's not that I became the head of the


"Am I a police informant against Netanyahu? I'm proud of what I did and what I didn't do"

Eight years after the interview with him in Walla!

Baranja was shelved due to what became File 4000, Ben Caspit returns to the "Correction Interview": on New Year's Eve and the elections, he assesses in the Israel Press Institute podcast: "Netanyahu will not reach 61", "It's not that I became the head of the arrow in the RLB camp, But Drucker lowered a gear"

David Wertheim

25/09/2022

Sunday, September 25, 2022, 11:03

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Eight years ago, Ben Caspit was interviewed by Walla!

Baranja (to the writer of these lines. At that time the site was owned by Bezeq, since then it was purchased by the Maariv-103fm-Hajerolem Post group). The days, the days of the beginning of what later became a criminal investigation under the name "Case 4,000". During the interview appeared Caspit's claims about the Netanyahu family and the Prime Minister's wife.



The interview was shelved and never published.



On New Year's Eve, Caspit returns to the "Correction Interview": in a conversation on the Israel Press Institute podcast, he explains why he thinks Netanyahu will not reach 61, comments on his cooperation With the police in the Netanyahu files, refers to the relationship with Yanon Magal and also what he will do if he receives an investigation that will result in the loss of the Change Bloc in the elections?



A small part of the conversation is presented here in the article. Listen or watch the full conversation.

On video: Tik Tok with David Wertheim, hosting Ben Caspit (Walla system!)

"I think Netanyahu will not reach 61"

"Even when half of the media was already in his hands, and he had Israel today (which has since made a U-turn) he did not relax. Until the last Rabbi Druckers and the remnants of Amnon Abramovich surrendered, he did not give up."

I would be happy if you risk yes or no - do you think Netanyahu will win the elections?



"It's really hard to know. While we're filming the interview, Netanyahu is gaining momentum, not because of his getting stronger or anything he's done, but because of two things that happened - the split of the Arab parties that took away two mandates from the Change Bloc and the decline of Shaked, perhaps before she withdrew from the race. If she retires every point she received I switch to him. Everything here is on the line, with a quarter of a mandate here or there, when the range is 58-62 for Netanyahu. If you still want a bet - then I think that Netanyahu will not reach 61. But it is a bet that comes both from my wish and because you asked then I give so that you will be satisfied."



Why are you so convinced that Netanyahu will harm the justice system?



"I don't believe what he says, because when he promises he usually does the opposite. That's why you have to listen to Krai, Amsalem and Distal who for some reason have been hidden recently, and also the son in Miami. I think he will hurt because the trial is the only thing that keeps him with us. He is not trying to do reforms, making peace or war, annexing or uniting Jerusalem. He is trying to escape justice, and the only way to do that is to get 61 with a right-wing bloc. If that were not the case, he would prefer Benny Gantz to Ben Gabir. You know, his attitude Laban Gabir is worse than mine. Netanyahu is a smart man and he knows that his situation in the trial is not good. His lawyers also know. He is not like the bibists who recite what they are told. I have known Netanyahu since 1988. He entered Corals because he needed the majority that would allow him to get out of this trial When he's not in prison."



And in the media market?



"Look, there is no prime minister here who has such an elaborate toolbox of intellect and abilities. My problem is that he is not a learning system, on the contrary, he continues time and time again to do all the things. Even when half of the media was already in his hands, and he had Israel Today (he has since made a U-turn) he did not rest until the last of the Rabbi Druckers and the remnants of Amnon Abramovich surrendered, he did not give up. That was the case in 2015 with this North Korean agreement that leaves the decisions in the media only with him, you know during the negotiations with Bouji brought up the issue of the media case and he said that he would rather give the prime ministership than this case.



"And let's not forget, now it's not just him, there are three of them. There's the wife and the son, and there it's even worse."



Tell me, if a story comes to you on the eve of the elections that will seriously damage the chance of the Change Bloc to form a government - will you publish it?



"A, it will be difficult. I'm not trying to play her here Dreyfus. I really believe, look me in the eyes, take me for a polygraph - that we are fighting for this country. I have children here. On the other hand, I passed this test. In 2019 Benny Gantz establishes a party, the New White Hope, 30 mandates in the polls - and then I publish at this critical moment for the first time about the 'fifth dimension.' The psychological treatment he is going to. I also wrote about the cell phone hacking first, I wrote about the Gmail, but I didn't put it as a title. Listen, I went to Alona's (daughter D.V.) parent meeting in Kfar Saba and the parents attacked me for it. But here is the difference Between Gantz and Netanyahu. Gantz grabbed everything in one go, from the mobile with the Iranians to the unbaked and whatever you say. But with him there is a trend of improvement, a trend of correction. He has matured as quickly as I have never seen."



So how do you explain that you haven't published a story like this in a long time?



"As mentioned, I posted on time A and we are in the same time unit. But for those who see us, I turn to the camera: whoever has something about someone - bring it. It will be checked and if true it will be published."

"No sarcasm, I feel like I'm on duty."

Opposition Leader Netanyahu (Photo: Flash 90, Olivier Fitosi)

"If Yanon and I can't broadcast together, we can fold everything here"

"I have a very short fuse. There is a paradox here. On the one hand, my fans say that I show too much patience on the radio, and on the other hand, when he touches the points and presses, I lose patience and explode"

I want to read you a TV review from a few weeks ago that was published in Haaretz.

Shani Litman criticizes the journalists, who, like the elected officials, are allegedly rewarded for rudeness and the verbal bullying only helps them.

"For example, Ben Caspit, who on his radio program a few weeks ago called the interviewee Barak Hyman 'stupid', 'auto-anti-Semitic', and a 'disaster for the people of Israel'. His sickening verbal violence (and not for the first time) only helped him gain more strength and appreciation, And he was chosen to submit "Meet the Press" alongside another journalist who flees like fire from the superficial and gladiatorial political game, Amit Segal. There is a claim that everyone is forced to adapt to the spirit of the times - not to be bored, to maintain a high level of adrenaline. We will remember this when the sinkhole of populism swallows us all." .



I will add that you also managed to call the former MK Osnat Mark "poultry garbage" (and later clarify that she is not), to call your partner for a presentation on Yanon Radio Magal "Eps"

and mention that you "pee on him".

partial list.



your reply?



"I'll put it this way. This is the first time I've been exposed to this text. I'll deal with it. Let Shani Litman keep writing and I'll keep doing what I'm doing. History won't judge us both because even it isn't that important."



come on.



"I have a very short fuse. There is a paradox here. On the one hand, my fans say that I show too much patience on the radio, and on the other hand, when he touches the points and presses, I lose patience and explode."



That's what they say to him too.



"You forgot to say that I also called someone a Nazi on the air, and he sued me and I won and he even paid me compensation. But listen, a strange thing happens, I don't think asking for forgiveness and apologizing is a weakness but a strength. Not only in legal compromises or when you have to. Just apologize for the outbursts that sometimes happen Lee. I think it makes me stronger.



"In general, regarding Yanon, we are talking about the most successful program on the radio today. And yes, it is often violent, and exaggerates and disturbs the conversation, but this program has beautiful moments and a bottom line, where the two most bitter enemies - the ultimate bibist and the ultimate anti-bibist can subdue One. To maintain a kind of half-house peace, if Yanon and I can't broadcast together, we can fold everything here. I'm not the kind to keep to myself, but if I leave, he'll broadcast alone or someone less informed than me on Netanyahu will broadcast there. Without cynicism, I feel that I on duty".



You make sure to mention in almost every interview that your father was a Likudnik.

Must say it feels like you're looking for a standard character.

To show that you didn't grow up in some twisted leftist tribe.



"You missed the investigation because why father, I myself was in Likud. I was the director of the branch in Holon in the 80s. Likud was different then, and if it hadn't become what it has become I would still be in Likud today. And you are right, do you know why I say this? Because it is difficult for critics mine. It's important that my criticism be heard because I stayed in my place. I'm not a leftist and I'm not coming from the left. I'm a centrist. On security issues, I'm far to the right of Netanyahu. I opposed the prisoner deals, wars, I'm in favor of a strong hand. One of the things that drives me the most crazy is that those who are not Bibi Not the right. Just the opposite."

"Asking for forgiveness and apologizing is a weakness but a strength."

In the program with Yanon (photo: screenshot, screenshot)

"In the end I am a lonely journalist"

"Look, in the end there is also an appreciation between us. What is happening with Yanon will not happen between us. Think of my three 'wives' - Aryeh Eldad is an intellectual, the supreme philosopher of the true right, Yanon is the troll and Amit is the journalist"

Come to think of it, you have quite a history of double broadcasting.

With Aryeh Eldad, Amit Segal, even with Enab Galili.



"That's true, but in the end I'm a lonely journalist. With all due respect to radio and television, in the end I'm a writer. And the writer's loneliness is terrible. And wonderful, yes. In the end, if I take anything with me to the next world, it's the books and the columns. When I walk down the street they tell me ' Say Linon' and 'Tell a colleague (Segal D.V)'. But when they tell me that they called me - that's when I get excited.



"By the way, Yanon is an enigma to me. He's an enigma. Everyone asks me if he's faking it or really thinks like that. There are moments when he's the old Yanon, now that Zvika Pik has passed away, he's over and all we've heard of Tzvika Pik for all 30 years. Sometimes from the nationalist troll, The messiah, the Shupri, sticks out from the previous Yanon that I'm told about. Listen, Magel predicted the 4,000 case and even his friend Riklin wrote years ago that Walla would become Israel today. But I love him. He's very funny and he's a man. But I think the part with Netanyahu that they say God touched In him and all that, he is a messiah and that scares me a little."



You mentioned Amit.

Let's talk about "meet the press" in the "new management".

I tell you honestly, it feels like a colleague is leading the broadcast and you are a guest presenter.

is it intentional



"Your impression was correct. First of all, we are in the third program and you know, we are studying. But in general, I tend to come small. This is not a couple's program. Amit Segal is the king of the place. He grew up there, he grew there, he prospered there, he is the influential journalist in Israel and News 12 is his home. In the second program I didn't measure but it was 45-55. I think that way it shouldn't change much. I think in the end there should be a slight advantage to the colleague in screen time. I'm an over-kill type, it wouldn't be bad if you were One platform where I am an understatement.



"Look, in the end there is also appreciation between us.

What is happening with Yanon will not happen between us.

Think of my three 'wives' - Aryeh Eldad is an intellectual, the supreme philosopher of the true right, Yanon is the troll and Amit is the journalist."



It must be admitted that 'Fender' is no longer a flagship program. We are in a news cycle that does not allow that.



"You said a smart thing here, and I think that's the intention. Our intention is that people will come to watch the show not necessarily because of the interviewee, but because they will receive the most intelligent and in-depth analysis of the bibist side, and the most updated side of the opposing side. Let's hope it succeeds."

"Used to come small".

In meeting the press (photo: screenshot, News 12)

"It's not like I upped the gear, Drucker downshifted"

"When the Israel Police contact a citizen, he must cooperate, and I am very proud of what I did or did not do. Let me tell you something else: I was a police informant in the Ehud Barak case."

You are an active player.

The popular opinion, even among bibists, is that you replaced Drucker at the head of the RLB arrow.



"First of all, Drucker was my deputy in Maariv.

Second, he is a super cannon.

Third, I don't think it's on the same level.

Drucker was never intense, he published some seminal investigations, but on TV you bring the bombshell once a .

Me, my writing and the radio every day is something else.

It's not that I upped a gear, Drucker downed a gear."



You agreed that you are an active player, so what do you actually want from those who call you Shofar.



"I'm not an actor, I'm a fighter. And I'm ready to be called any name you want as long as we save this country. I believe that with all my heart. I believe that we are in danger. We have no real existential threat outside. Israel is a power that I wish I could tell even a part of that Because the censor would have dismissed it. There is no person who has seen dozens and hundreds of people who were in the aquarium, and I only took out of them 2% of the farts they saw there. I am in this war and I think that it is forbidden to blink, and everything is in the journalistic rules of the game."



So let's talk about the rules of the game.

How do you relate to the publications, which you have not denied, according to which you became a recurring police source in the Netanyahu cases (mainly in the 1,000 case, but also in other cases), or as you are called on the right - an "informant"?

This is a problematic practice.



"I would appreciate it if you would tell me what is wrong with the police contacting you. Let me teach you something about the history of the media. I am a journalist who has never worked with the police, until I realized that they all work. Yoav Yitzhak filed a complaint with the police against President Weizmann in the Sarosi case. I have never filed a complaint with the police. When the Israeli police contact a citizen, he must cooperate, and I am very proud of what I did or did not do. Let me tell you something else: I was a police informant in the Ehud Barak cases. Then the ombudsman, Weinstein, gave me a meltdown one day , because since I am a leftist, I blamed the system for not investigating Barak.

I got to blade 433 and sat for 5 hours.

The dream of every journalist is that his investigations will turn into a police investigation.

And I didn't initiate it at all."



Ok, they contacted, and you cooperated. So maybe you should exclude yourself from dealing with the Netanyahu issue. And if it's legitimate, why didn't you make a statement about it?



"Everything I said are things I publish. I was called, asked, I answered, and I did what every responsible citizen is obligated to do. By the way, it is also illegal not to respond to the police."



How are you actually enough - two daily programs.

A weekly column and sometimes also in the middle of the week.

Olfsh. Meet. Al Monitor and hundreds of thousands of followers. It's a factory.



"What about the books and the lectures and the podcast in English, and I'm also writing two books.

I really have no life.

On the other hand, I have the most interesting life in the world and I wouldn't trade it for anything else."



The question is, doesn't this scattering indicate superficiality?



"You call my column in the 30-year Marev superficial?

Do you call Netanyahu's biography superficial?

But let's put it this way, I don't have a problem with sources.

Apart from Netanyahu and his family, there is no person in Israel today that I cannot reach.

The problem is the intensity.

Yes I have thoughts on what I should download.



"You know, my whole career is accidental. My arrival at Ma'ariv is accidental. Arrival on television is accidental. Arrival at Radio Educational is accidental. Arrival at 'Fender' I have never had an agent who offered me something. I am one who simply does not know how to say no. And that is not good. I have daughters and there is another life besides a work schedule."

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