Maischberger round attacks CDU experts as "Haudrauf" - and Söder as empty

Created: 06/10/2022, 14:56

Sandra Maischberger and her guests on the show on October 5th, 2022 © Screenshot: ARD / maischberger.

the week

Nuclear danger as a topic for Sandra Maischberger: just saber rattling or to be taken seriously?

– Cabaret artist Priol complains: You can't parody Scholz without pantomime.

The commentary round, with which Sandra Maischberger opens her program, is opinionated and clearer than ever before on this Wednesday evening.

Cabaret artist Urban Priol, when asked about the growing danger of nuclear war, finds particularly clear words: "It scares me that everything is suddenly slipping into a certain normality.

That people simply talk about tactical nuclear weapons as if they were little pellets to be thrown somewhere.

A nuclear bomb is a nuclear bomb and you have to do everything you can to prevent such an escalation.”

Maischberger: Nuclear danger in the Ukraine war?

"Low despite saber-rattling"

Gregor Peter Schmitz doesn't mince his words either.

The new "Stern" editor-in-chief sees Putin "backed into a corner".

In the current situation, you have to be careful that the situation doesn't escalate and "at least take what's happening there seriously".

Russia has “fallen behind by decades, maybe even by centuries,” Schmitz states.

The fact that the ruble has risen to a record high since the beginning of the Ukraine war and that Russia has booked extreme additional income as a result of the sanctions is only one side of the coin for him.

He sees clear signs of weakness in Russia.

The effects of the sanctions are "not felt so clearly because Vladimir Putin is simply ready to completely ruin his country".

The people are doing "incredibly badly, and it was already a poor country before."

"Zeit" journalist Mariam Lau, on the other hand, stated: "It's not the first nuclear threat we've received." In the first two months of the war, there were already 20 in number.

"You're a little bit jaded.

I wouldn't say there's nothing to worry about, but despite the saber-rattling, I think the likelihood is relatively small."

These guests discussed with Sandra Maischberger:

• Amira Mohamed Ali

  (Chairman of the parliamentary group, Die Linke)

• Gerhart Baum

  (Former Interior Minister, FDP)

• Mariam Lau

  (journalist, Die Zeit)

• Urban Priol

  (cabaret artist)

• Norbert Röttgen

  (CDU)

• Gregor Peter Schmitz

  (Editor-in-Chief Stern)

Maischberger on the Ukraine war: Runde attacks CDU experts as "Haudrauf"

Above all, Priol's characterization of the CDU weapons expert Roderich Kiesewetter as "Haudrauf" is well received by the audience.

"He almost sounds like Attila the Hun.

Sometimes I get the impression that he can't wait.” When Kiesewetter says that Germany can even send soldiers to Ukraine, that's covered by international law.

"I'm a little lacking in restraint."

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Lau recommends being calm: "You just have to calculate it very coldly, when am I going to the negotiating table." And Schmitz warns: "At some point the question will arise as to whether our interests are really congruent with those of Ukraine.

There is a lot of distrust towards the Ukrainians in Berlin.” The question is “whether the Ukraine might want too much”.

What could that be? Lau asks.

"Well, maybe they'll expand," says Schmitz.

"What Roderich Kiesewetter would like again," throws Priol afterwards.

Maischberger: Röttgen counters the negotiation proposal of the left

The left-wing politician Amira Mohamed Ali, who at times loudly duels in the second round of the evening with CDU man Norbert Röttgen, also has a strong opinion.

She considers it "an illusion that Russia can be defeated militarily".

Especially since all governments have always acted according to the maxim not to deliver weapons to war and crisis zones.

Röttgen, on the other hand, is firmly convinced: "The military will not solve the conflict, but it will make the solution possible."

Röttgen sees “increasing schizophrenia” in Russia.

Putin is "under more pressure than ever".

But then it is all the more important to start negotiations now, says Mohamed Ali.

Röttgen brushes it off: "That's completely absurd and really has no factual basis at all.

That's dreaming at best." But Mohamed Ali throws facts into the ring: After all, even Turkish President Erdogan has achieved diplomatic successes, "whom I don't really trust with particularly great diplomacy.

If he manages to negotiate something like that, I think the EU could achieve something."

You have to examine all possibilities to relax the situation.

Maischberger: "Söder did what he always does"

What German politics is contributing to is pretty clear to Urban Priol: Chancellor Scholz is so inconspicuous that he can't even parody him.

"You have to be able to pantomime," complains the cabaret artist.

And Markus Söder is an opportunist for him: "He did what he always does: be the first in the headlines.

He doesn't care about anything else.

In terms of content, not much comes from him.” And “Stern” man Schmitz continues to etch: Söder “should have to win an election instead of always doing well in polls.

So far he hasn't won an election convincingly."

Ex-Interior Minister Gerhart Baum sees a "test for democracy this winter" coming.

"Putin's Russia is not the whole of Russia, and it is absolutely arrogant to say that the Russians are incapable of democracy.

I think everyone is free.

We are all born free."

But Putin thinks irrationally.

"This man in the Kremlin is not controlled, he decides alone.

There is no politburo like in China.” Baum accuses Putin of “aggressive imperialism”.

This is a structural aggressiveness inherent in the system.

And it has to go.”

Conclusion of the talk with Sandra Maischberger

Rarely has a round of commentators got to the point as quickly and precisely as this time.

Urban Priol in particular appealed with its clear edge.

The audience's applause proved him right.

A fresh contrast to Oliver Kalkofe, who recently admitted his personal surrender to Maischberger.

He doesn't joke anymore, said Kalkofe, so as not to be quoted from the wrong side.