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Simple public housing|The source of the demolition cost is disclosed for the first time, but the number is unknown

2023-02-08T11:32:52.358Z


Simple public housing can improve the living environment of subdivided housing residents, but issues such as construction cost and site selection have aroused heated discussions in the society, and many members of Parliament raised doubts earlier. The Legislative Council Public Works Subcommittee discussed the first batch of site selection projects this morning (8th)


Simple public housing can improve the living environment of subdivided housing residents, but issues such as construction cost and site selection have aroused heated discussions in the society, and many members of Parliament raised doubts earlier.

The Public Works Group of the Legislative Council discussed the project funding for the first batch of sites this morning (8th). Many members expressed their support for the motion, but at the same time raised a number of issues.


Ho Wing-hsien, director of the Housing Bureau, responded to the public's concerns about transportation and living facilities, and mentioned for the first time which item would be included in the demolition, but he still failed to provide detailed data.

The motion was finally passed with 34 votes in favor. Kowloon Zhong Yang Yongjie abstained from the voting as predicted, while Jiang Yuhuan, who questioned the lack of sufficient data, was absent from the meeting as said yesterday (7th) and avoided voting to express his opinion.


The government pointed out that Kai Tak's simple public housing will add bus lines, but did not mention new systems such as light rail.

(File photo/Photo by Lin Aiyi)

Traffic planning: increase bus and minibus lines without mentioning light rail

Yang Yongjie, who abstained from voting in advance, raised many questions. He said that the residents did not believe in the proposal of a two-year construction period plus a five-year service period. Transportation systems such as light rail.

At the same time, he pointed out that there are no cultural and recreational facilities in the area, whether the complex building in the 1JS area can be built in advance, and whether the simple public housing is located above the Kai Tak underground street, will the planning be disconnected in the middle.

For the above questions, He Yongxian has put forward more definite answers.

She first emphasized that after the government promised the "2+5" arrangement, the land would return to its original use. She also pointed out that in addition to the two bus routes, additional routes would also be considered. The complex building will conduct a feasibility study in the next 5 years and will be expropriated for 5 years Expand as soon as possible.

70% of underground streets have definite plans, and the remaining 30% will be developed by relevant developers, including the underground part of simple public housing.

However, He Yongxian did not mention the light rail plan mentioned by Yang Yongjie, nor did he talk about the development timetable of the underground street.

The construction time of the complex is also out of sync with that of the simple public housing.

Yang Yongjie finally abstained from voting.

Kowloon East Yan Wenyu said that he was worried about the living resources and transportation facilities of the Caixing Road site. He Yongxian also gave a brief answer. In addition to setting up a minibus stop, nearby residents can also use the facilities of simple public housing, such as child care services.

Chairman Lu Weiguo said that it was not detailed enough and asked for a written reply to the transportation arrangement

Xie Weiquan proposed dividing the total cost by the number of units, and concluded that the total cost of each unit was more than 800,000 yuan.

At the same time, it also raised doubts about Kai Tak traffic, pointing out that although it answered the current Kai Tak MTR station has a surplus passenger capacity, it can still meet the demand when the population increases in the future.

He Yongxian pointed out that the total cost includes many peripheral facilities, including bus stations and supporting facilities.

The assistant director of the Transport Department, Chow Bing-kei, said that Kai Tak Station has been designed with future development in mind, and will consider whether to increase the number of trains in the future.

Lu Weiguo, chairman of the Public Works Small General Committee, said that the government did not have a detailed answer to the transportation support questions raised by Yang Yongjie and Xie Weiquan. He suggested that the detailed figures be answered in writing in the future. It's hard to accept."

The Legislative Council Public Works Subcommittee discusses simple public housing.

(Photo by Liao Yanxiong)

The cost of demolition has been included in the construction contract and the amount is still unknown

Chen Shaoxiong questioned that the cost per unit of high-rise projects was lower than that of high-rise projects. He asked whether the infrastructure such as foundations and pilings could be reused, and whether it was possible to increase the height of buildings as much as possible to build more units.

Ho Wing-yin agreed that the piles should be reusable as much as possible, and the ArchSD will conduct further research.

Qiu Dagen also pointed out that there is no detailed demolition cost, and how to store and reuse the dismantled components.

He Yongxian pointed out that the dismantling price is included in the construction contract. As for the use of the components after 7 years, "As long as the possibility is maintained, the answer will exist." After that, the storage and transportation will be included in the budget of the next project.

She gave an example that there will be a large number of sites in the northern metropolitan area in the future, which can be used as workers' lounges or site offices.

Chen Xuefeng pointed out that the Bureau did not explain well that the cost of demolition work was included in the construction contract. "I think the explanation should be more first served, Director. If not, everyone will think that the cost is very expensive." He asked about the cost of demolition. how many.

Chen Xuefeng also said that if the components are used for other purposes in the future, accounting should be understood to take into account the diluted cost, and he thinks that these items should also be properly explained.

He Yongxian emphasized that there are many real figures in the document, and there are also breakdown figures for each project. If components are reused, the cost saved will be included in future projects. However, he did not respond to the dismantling costs in the construction contract.

Jiang Yuhuan, who did not attend the meeting, said that it was only at this meeting that she learned that the management fee includes supporting items such as career planning.

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The management fee involves career planning and other supporting members, saying they are not aware of it

Lin Xiaolu took transitional housing as an example, pointing out that there should be a lot of room for price reduction in the simple public housing inverted mold making components.

In terms of management fees, he also pointed out that the management, rates, maintenance, and rebate fees for the newly-built public housing of the Housing Authority are about 9 yuan per square foot, but the simple public housing is about 13 yuan per square foot, which needs to be clearly explained.

He Yongxian said that the operating expenses are not limited to management fees, but also include service facilities such as community facilities, as well as services such as occupancy, relocation, and life planning, as well as cleaning, security, and maintenance.

She emphasized that this fee is only a budget and has not been actually bid.

Jiang Yuhuan, who said she was absent earlier, said in response to media inquiries that she only found out at this meeting that the operating funds for simple public housing originally included life planning for residents. It is too sloppy and hasty to pass the question in 5 minutes.

Tian Beichen repeatedly asked about the insufficient occupancy rate of Tongxin Village in Yuen Long, and hoped that the government would study and avoid the same situation in simple public housing.

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Members are concerned about the low occupancy rate in the New Territories Ho Wing-yin: Strengthen traffic and publicity

Deng Jiabiao asked whether there is a "good bridge" to make the simple public housing have a good occupancy rate.

He Yongxian said that he has always been concerned about the occupancy rate of projects in the New Territories, so some resources have been used to build bus stops. There are two bus stops and new bus lines on the Siu Lam site, which will also benefit nearby residents.

She said that each district has different supporting needs, and will communicate with district councilors, and will also release more information and arrange rental as soon as possible.

Tian Beichen raised the issue of the occupancy rate of Tongxin Village in Yuen Long.

He said that there are less than 700 Type A tenants who have been waiting for public housing for at least 3 years and are eligible to go upstairs, accounting for less than 40% of the 1,800 flats in Tongxin Estate.

Tian Beichen believes that the example of Tongxin Village can reflect the "slow sales" of transitional housing in the New Territories. He hopes that the authorities will study the reasons to avoid insufficient occupancy of simple public housing in the New Territories.

He Yongxian responded that he would continue to arrange "property inspection tours" and various promotions.

The public works group of the Legislative Council discussed simple public housing. 34 members of the group supported it, and Yang Yongjie abstained from voting.

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Jiang Yuhuan's request for multiple data earlier did not appear at the meeting

Jiang Yuhuan earlier requested the government to provide a variety of data, including budgets for operation and maintenance after occupation, the number of people waiting for public housing and the number of residents who are not suitable for housing, the number of transitional housing completed in the next two years, and the expected occupancy rate.

She also asked about the method and cost of storage after demolition, and the total cost of each simple public housing unit together with management maintenance and demolition costs.

Yesterday, Jiang Yuhuan told "Hong Kong 01" that the above data was submitted as early as November last year, but has not been received yet. She believes that today's meeting should not be held, and at the same time she does not want to ask repeated questions, so she will not attend.

Jiang Yuhuan was absent from the meeting today, and there were no officials to explain in detail the figures she raised at this meeting.

Although there have been breakthroughs in some simple public housing projects, for example, the cost of dismantling was originally included in the construction contract, but the amount is still unknown, and the questions raised by some members have not been fully answered.

However, apart from Jiang Yuhuan, who was lacking, and Yang Yongjie, who had already expressed his abstention, all 34 members who had votes voted for it.

Simple public housing | The source of the demolition cost is disclosed for the first time, but the number is unknown Simple public housing|Chen Guoji reiterated that the time limit is 5 years without changing the land use, hoping that the society will help each other and understand each other

Source: hk1

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