Exclusive with Michael Douglas: "Next year we are going with my wife to Buenos Aires"

We were already surprised in 2015, when the first

premiered , and

was the co-star with Paul Rudd.

,

,

, and

actor

was, presumably, not a name one would immediately associate with Marvel.

Well, with

there are already three movies with Douglas playing Dr. Hank Pym.

Douglas is the scientist who first created the technology to change the molecules of his body and change size, which in large part led to the origin of this saga... and also gave Ant-Man (Paul Rudd) the opportunity to save to the planet in the last of the Avengers.

Married to Welsh

, they were born on the same day, but in a different year.

Michael is 78 years old, and the actress from

and

, 53. And they have been married for 22 years, and have two children.

"My wife (Catherine Zeta-Jones) is a fan of Buenos Aires," Michael Douglas told Clarín.

Disney photos

With Duglas, extremely kind and well-disposed, despite the fact that the Zoom meeting took more than an hour to take place, we are not only talking about the Marvel movie, which opens in Argentina this Thursday, February 16, a day before in the very United States.

There was time to ask him about the difference between the times when he ran through

with Karl Malden and the present, and maybe, perhaps, in one of those, he surprises by answering what are the movies he starred in and what they left him a better memory.

Will it be

, or Fatal Attraction?

-Hi, Pablo.

- How are you, Michael?

Nice to meet you…

With his wife, Catherine Zeta-Jones, at the Emmy Awards.

We are "looking forward" to traveling to Buenos Aires.

AFP photo

-I'm fine.

How is Buenos Aires?

-Very good here.

Have you been in Argentina...?

-No, we have a great plan for next year.

We are going to Buenos Aires.

My wife is a huge fan and we are looking forward to it.

Michelle Pfieffer is Janet van Dyne, Hank Pym's wife from the second of "Ant-Man".

Douglas does nothing but praise her.

-Great, we'll be waiting for you.

It is curious that with how extensive and rich her careers are, yours and that of Michelle Pfeiffer, who is your wife in fiction, have recently coincided in a Marvel production...

-Well, yes, I have done three of the movies, the first Ant-Man and

.

Michelle was introduced in the sequel Ant-Man and the WASP.

But now, in this movie, she really takes charge.

And it's great to see that someone who has spent 30 years in the quantum realm, has come home for only three or four years, and by a terrible accident, we now find ourselves back in the quantum realm and in this messy place.

It was fun for both of us.

Michelle, you know, she was in

 many years ago, but other than that, we both just enjoyed doing something different.

We never did these green screen movies and we just wanted to enjoy the experience.

-We are not going to spoil anything, Michael, but how did you feel trying on the action hero suit?

-You know, for an actor who is always playing contemporary movies with contemporary clothes, a little change is always good.

So I really enjoyed this opportunity to be in this world of Marvel, which I knew nothing about.

He wasn't a fan of comics as a kid.

This is all a bit new to me and it's like a different language and I'm enjoying it.

Family.

Michael Douglas, Michelle Pfeiffer and Evangeline Lilly in the middle of the quantum kingdom proposed by the new Marvel.

-It is that this film has more action for Hank and Janet.

How was your preparation regarding the action scenes?

-We have amazing doubles.

There's like a whole department, and you're incredibly supported.

And there's training that goes along with that.

My preparation was, look, I'm in a Marvel movie!

And to have a good time and be in awe of my amazing wife Janet and what she could accomplish and what a great shape she was in during those 30 years that she was in the quantum realm.

And what he must have been eating and drinking, what else was he doing there to be in the best possible shape.

And I relished the chance to see her and Evangeline (Lilly, her fictional daughter) in action and I couldn't feel more than blessed to have two female action heroines supporting the old man...

Paul Rudd, huge, at one point in "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania."

Will Michael Douglas return for a fourth Ant-Man movie, if it is made?

"Only if he could die," he told

at the time .

In other words, he wants to say goodbye to the saga through the front door.

-And now that you are more submerged in the world of Marvel, what do you think these films have that captivate the public, in your opinion?

-I think that the images of

, which have a lot of reference to the family, bring a vulnerability to these super-powered characters that we see in many Marvel movies.

There is a certain vulnerability.

And a sense of humor there, which I think is really a treat.

And they're movies that seem to relate to all different ages.

Someone like me, who mostly has R-rated movies (for 17+ in the US, which would be a SAM 16 in Argentina), it's been a real treat to have younger kids come and enjoy, and watch what's happening.

"I love ants," says Douglas.

"I don't want to give away too much," he said, but...

-What has your time playing Dr. Hank Pym done for your knowledge and appreciation of ants?

-I love ants.

It's phenomenal.

I mean, I was hooked on the whole thing from the beginning, and I loved the idea that someone had developed this ability to make themselves small.

Must have been someone from the '60s.

So, I enjoyed it, and I think it's a linear thing that stayed throughout the project.

And I was very excited in

to find out that our ants can still be a part of this.

I don't want to reveal too much here, you know...

Hollywood yesterday and today

-Is there something you miss about Hollywood in the '80s and '90s compared to Hollywood today?

-Well, in the eighties and nineties, we were much closer and that was before digital.

So it was all still celluloid and film... That made sure you couldn't stray too far from Los Angeles, where all the movies were being made.

Now, of course, we are digital people living all over the country.

Look at us talking thousands of miles away.

That could never have happened in the 1980s and 1990s.

So there's more communication, but we're less communicated, if you know what I mean.

There is a little more to communicate, but there is less intimacy.

Along with Kathleen Turner in the classic "War of the Roses", one of Douglas's favorite movies.

Photo File Clarín

-Which of the films you have made do you have the best memories?

-You know, Pablo, you work as hard on your failures as on your successes, but the movies I liked were like those racehorses that you didn't think were successful.

Movies like

Wonder

 ,

War

… These are  movies

that were kind of dark, that you didn't really think would be successful and they turned out to be successful.

So those films played a very important role for me.

With Karl Malden he starred in the series "The streets of San Francisco", between 1972 and 1976. Photo Archive Clarín

-My last question is, you've been doing quite a few series lately, what biggest difference do you see, from "The streets of San Francisco" to the present?

-The difference between digital and celluloid.

Digital makes everything much faster, it's faster to film, do repetitions, do fewer takes.

You don't have to wait for the camera to reload.

It's like a much nicer boost for the actors.

He keeps the rhythm.

Cordial, the farewell could not be more formal...

Thank you very much, Michael, for your time.

Thank you very much, take care.

All the best.

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