Nathalie Heinich: "The Gulag did not exist any more according to the Stalinists than Wokism according to its supporters"

LE FIGARO MAGAZINE. - In your new essay, you explain that wokism flirts with totalitarian temptations. Is that not excessive?

Nathalie HEINICH. - It would be excessive if totalitarianism were reduced to totalitarian regimes alone - fascism, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc. - but this assimilation is a political scientist's bias, which does not take into account what interests a sociologist: not the great political systems but the mental representations, the attachments of individuals, the only ones able to explain their possible transformation into political currents or even regimes of government. But the main trends of Wokism - identitarianism, ideologism and censorship - have a deep affinity with the mentalities that allowed the formation of the various totalitarianisms.

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You speak of "totalitarianism of atmosphere" or "totalitarianism without a state". What is it?

The absence of a totalitarian regime, in the sense given to it by Hannah Arendt, does not prevent ...

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