Le Figaro Marseille
LE FIGARO.-
You went to the Kalliste city
this Thursday.
Two weeks ago, a child died there in a fire.
The fire broke out in a squatted apartment, due to auxiliary heating.
How can we prevent this from happening again?
Sabrina AGRESTI-ROUBACHE
.- The President of the Republic came to Marseille in June to ask for a law to be prepared on degraded co-ownerships.
The prefect of Bouches-du-Rhône, Christophe Mirmand, is extremely attentive to the issue of squats.
The mayor took up the subject of the construction of social housing.
He was under threat of a breach of the SRU law on the part of the prefect.
There was a start but we must go much further.
The number of building permits issued must be accelerated.
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In a report
,
Le Figaro
noted that in the dilapidated city of Consolat, work financed by the national housing agency (Anah) has still not started.
How to explain it?
A derogation is needed in this case.
Our reality is that we are a state of law.
But sometimes the law is heavy.
The law hinders.
Remember what the Prime Minister said as soon as he arrived at Matignon.
He said we need to unlock and simplify.
For Consolat, it’s the same!
You have to unlock.
I was contacted by local elected officials on this subject.
As soon as I return to Paris, I take care of it.
The worst part is that the money is there.
I am a minister and I am going to contact Anah (National Housing Agency, Editor's note) to ask them how to enable Consolat to accelerate!
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As part of the Marseille en grand plan that you are supporting, the State has financed the modernization of the metro. To implement this project, the president of the metropolis Martine Vassal decided to close the metro at night for at least a year. Is this going in the right direction?
You know, the real thing about transportation is time.
To release a metro or tram, it takes years.
When we renovate, destroy or rebuild, there are incompressible deadlines.
On the contrary, I am pleased that the president of the metropolis is initiating work to modernize the Marseille metro.
It is up to the president of the metropolis and the mayor of Marseille to agree to provide alternative transport.
This is not a matter for the state.
I'm not going to get involved in things that don't concern me.
I am neither the president of the metropolis nor the mayor of Marseille.
This is their local problem.
On the other hand, when we talk about the GIP, for the State to come and say that it is coming to look closely, that's normal!
We co-finance, we watch.
We educate, we say when things are not going well and we say when things are going well too.
Local problems are managed by definition by local elected officials.
This is why people vote for local elected officials.
Benoît Payan is from Marseille like me.
He knows very well how it works.
Martine Vassal is also from Marseille.
She knows very well what she has to do and she does it very well.
People want work, but not in their homes!
Sometimes it's like in real life: you have to go through somewhat difficult phases to improve.
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During your trip, you met the collective of families who work for the recognition of victims of score-settling. What can we do for these families?
What I want is to actually recognize their victim status.
I would like better support and structuring of this collective.
With the help of the prefect, we will provide them with premises which belong to the State and not to a social landlord.
They need state resources and that is normal.
What is victim support?
For someone who loses a child, their life is over, but they must continue to live.
What is the psychological and logistical support?
I am committed to systematically rehousing families so that they no longer live where their children died.
I also want a status for nannies.
A nanny is someone who keeps drugs for traffickers.
In the vast majority of cases, it is single women with children who are under duress.
We must therefore create a status and I will propose it.
We must allow these women to speak to the police by granting them special protection dedicated to them.
Status for nursing mothers is a struggle.
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There is also another aspect, that of video protection.
I'm pro-camera.
The government releases a lot of money for the cameras, but it does not give the authorizations.
It is the mayors in the municipalities who give them.
When talking one day with the President of the Republic, we said to ourselves that there was a huge problem.
A lot of money is deployed by the State, but it is little used, while people demand more security.
At the end of next March, Corrèze, Morbihan and Bouches-du-Rhône will benefit from an interactive map on which people will be able to check how many cameras their city has.
They will also be able to know how much money has been deployed by the State, and how much has been consumed by local elected officials.
This way, people will be able to have the information transparently.
Is this a way of putting pressure on Benoît Payan, criticized by his opposition on this subject?
I don't want to put pressure on Benoît Payan.
I want people to access the decisions of their local elected officials in complete transparency.
It is too easy, everywhere in France, to hide behind the State.
I have already questioned this subject several times.
As a reminder, the State provides the funds and local elected officials provide the permits.
I also hear what the Marseillais and the French in general are saying.
They demand accountability from the State and local elected officials.
We cannot always say that it is the fault of the State.
In a column published in
Libération
, another collective of victims' families calls for the creation of a monument in tribute to the victims of score-settling in Marseille.
Are you in favor of it?
In terms of prevention, that interests me.
We have to get back to basics.
I believe there is the right way and the wrong way.
We must explain to the little people of Marseillais what happened, where they should not go and the consequences of drug trafficking.
We must materialize this.
You sell drugs, you kill people, and you ruin other people's lives.
The right way to have the most serene and peaceful life possible is not to do stupid things.
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You also met
the collective which opposed the installation of the shooting room
at 110 boulevard de la Libération, in the 4th arrondissement.
What is the government's position on this?
Why did I hear the call of this collective?
These are families who live there and who explained that moving a shooting gallery into the middle of a neighborhood with 5,000 children without consultation was a bad thing.
This is a project that was not discussed with residents.
You have to listen to them.
They are the ones who live in their neighborhood.
The local elected official who comes to sue me about the location of a shooting room, I invite him to come and set one up near his home.
This way, he will be confronted with real life.
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I understood that it was Sophie Camard, mayor of the 1st and 7th
arrondissements
of Marseille, who did not want it.
I support the members of this collective.
I heard them.
I pushed hard so that it wouldn't happen there.
My position is clear: I think that to support drug addicts, it must be done in a hospital environment.
The reality is that we can't solve addictive behaviors by putting a shooting room somewhere and letting people fend for themselves.
We need medical support for consumption.
This cannot be treated by putting an association somewhere without medical, social or police support.
This is a common sense measure.
If Sophie Camard thinks it's a great idea, let her take the shooting room and put it at the bottom of her building!
You therefore contributed to putting an end to a project carried out by the Marseille town hall. Should we see this as a first step on your part towards the municipal elections of 2026?
It's a security issue.
For now, I am a minister.
But I am a girl from Marseille and I will always remain Marseille.
That's the only certainty I have.
I didn't wait for politics to get involved in Marseille.