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The chief rabbi is right - but the ultra-orthodox should give up the budgets - voila! news

2024-03-10T19:19:02.745Z

Highlights: The chief rabbi is right - but the ultra-orthodox should give up the budgets - voila! news. Without the yeshiva budgets, we will not be able to bridge the gaps. The place of Torah scholars is not up for debate. After Israeli society recognizes this, it will be possible to move forward to the real discussion: about the place of those who do not study in the IDF. There are many of them. Is the IDF prepared to accept them? Will the army be willing to guarantee that their ultra-Orthodox way of life will not being harmed?


Just as Israeli society expects the ultra-Orthodox to understand how important recruiting for the IDF is, the ultra-Orthodox also expect it to understand the importance of the Torah. Without this, we will have difficulty bridging the gaps. In the meantime, if the sector wants to lower the level of the flames, it is not necessary to announce a withdrawal from the country: it is enough to announce that we are getting along Without the yeshiva budgets


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I'll give you a spoiler: if you thought you would find in this column a word of criticism about the words of Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef, according to them, if yeshivot boys are forced to enlist in the IDF, they will leave the country. Yes, I also agree with the position that a rabbi in a state position should not express strong political positions his role, but I have no intention of criticizing a great rabbi in Israel, a genius in the Torah and knowledgeable in Halacha. My littleness. Regardless, I believe that the rabbi never meant this, just as the Lithuanian leader Rabbi Shach did not mean a similar statement heard from him in 1988 or Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the father of The chief rabbi, who said this in 2013.



Rabbi Yosef tried to illustrate the importance of Torah study. of the Torah.

Without it, we will not be able to bridge the gaps.

Tried to illustrate the importance of Torah study, Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef/Walla system!

NEWS, Yaakov Cohen

About a month after October 7, I enlisted in the IDF. Along with hundreds of other ultra-Orthodox, most of them are married with children and work to support us on uniforms. We went through a short three-week apprenticeship and most of us are still in reserve service, for almost 120 days. Is the IDF necessarily required of us? ?

No.

But we chose this path, among other things, out of the pain of the heavy price of the war in Gaza or in the north, we realized that it is no longer possible to stand idly by in the face of questions like "Where are the ultra-Orthodox in the picture?"

And that we must not underestimate anymore.

This is about the pain of the whole nation, it needs to be answered, including us.

Canceling it with a wave of the hand, just like in all the past years, is no longer an option.

Yes, the ultra-Orthodox are also required to do their part in the joint security mission.

The fate is in the end shared by all of us.



For the ultra-Orthodox public, the value of studying the Torah is the foundation of the foundations.

The place of Torah scholars is not up for debate.

After Israeli society recognizes this, it will be possible to move forward to the real discussion: about the place of those who do not study in the IDF. There are many of them. Is the IDF prepared to accept them?

Will the army be willing to guarantee that their ultra-Orthodox way of life will not be harmed?

I am sure that if we reach this crossroads, some of the ultra-Orthodox leaders, as well as Rabbi Yosef, will continue to voice their position in public - less around threats to leave the country and more statements like "those who do not study Torah must enlist".

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But since we've been at the same point of argument for two decades now, I have no reason to think anything will change anytime soon.

The discourse on both sides became political.

Yair Lapid, Avigdor Lieberman and Marev Michaeli who recently proposed various solutions such as conscription for every 18-year-old youth or a quota of Torah students up to only 2,000 ultra-Orthodox - know that none of this will happen.

As always, they come to make political capital on the backs of the ultra-Orthodox.



On the other hand, the ultra-orthodox politicians who remain silent and do not bring their own proposal to the table are also abdicating responsibility and are guilty of the fact that we will continue to argue here forever.

Each side in the meantime shouts at the other, without hearing what he even has to say.

We have long needed a renewed meeting between Ben Gurion and the Chazon Ish to redraw everything.

"Each side shouts at the other, without hearing what he has to say."

Haredim protest against the conscription law/official website, Itai Ron

But until then, I would offer the ultra-Orthodox a simple proposal.

You want to lower the flame, right?

I believe so.

After all, in the meantime we have not been able to convince the other side of our way.

No need to leave the country.

It is possible to announce that you are giving up the yeshiva and kollel budgets.

That's it, It's over.

The ultra-Orthodox will independently finance the Torah students, through ultra-orthodox tycoons, donations and fundraising from the public.

If a yeshiva student or an avrach receives a few hundred shekels a month from the state, we can change the state.

The ultra-Orthodox can manage on their own.



The High Court issued a conditional order requiring the state to justify why the yeshivots continue to receive budgets even though their students are not enlisting. No date has yet been set for a discussion or a decision, but Legal Adviser to the Government Gali Beharev Miara clarified that the government's decision not to decide on the recruitment issue will expire at the end of the month and it will be difficult anyway Continue to budget for Torah students. The ultra-Orthodox should announce in advance that they are no longer interested in money, that they should turn to sit in the opposition. Maybe this way we will all understand that we need an army, we need Torah and everyone needs proper and respectable treatment and status.

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Source: walla

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