Apart from their clothing, everything separated Natacha Polony and
Bernard-Henri Lévy
last night debating on the set of “What an era!”.
The essayist, watchdog of the war in Ukraine who today provides his full support to bereaved Israel, came to present his latest essay,
The Solitude of Israel
.
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“There is no place in this world where Jews are safe, that is the message. Not a land, on this planet, which is a shelter for the Jews, that is what the event (of October 7) states
,” writes BHL in this essay of which
Le Figaro
published the correct pages.
A wink from Saint-Sernin
Facing Léa Salamé, he points out - and here lies the solitude of Israel - the
"lack of solidarity"
shown by international organizations after October 7.
Natacha Polony
, who came to present the new version of her weekly
Marianne
, listens to her vibrant preamble.
Then he is surprised:
“I would have liked you to be able to also say that the situation of the Palestinians is tragic.”
The start of their skirmish.
“I’ve been saying it for fifty years, including in the book
,” replies Bernard-Henri Lévy.
Before Léa Salamé questions him:
“We have the impression that you have difficulty criticizing Netanyahu’s government.”
BHL then mentions the humanitarian corridors established by Israel,
“which makes considerable efforts to preserve civilians”
.
For him, the situation would have no other outcome than war.
Not to fight in Hamas would mean abandoning the hostages and taking the risk of new massacres in the future.
Comedian Paul de Saint-Sernin lightens the atmosphere:
“Can we get the opinion of Zoé, who hasn’t said anything since earlier?”
, he slips while talking about Zoé Clauzure, the winner of Eurovision 2023, 14 years old, also on the set.
“Don’t talk at the same time!”
Natacha Polony speaks again:
“Those who torpedoed the peace processes are the fundamentalists on both sides.
We must move away from this logic where power is in the hands of extremists.
(...) Netanyahu's government does not deserve unconditional support.
We must stop this, give people the rights that deserve them.”
“Are you talking to me about international law?”
, BHL ignites, which then recalls all the horror of October 7.
“When Hamas is broken, and the Palestinian people are freed from its dictatorship, then we will have to talk about a reasonable and just political solution
,” he continues.
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“I was not able to finish my reasoning earlier: this position is dangerous because it is showing the whole world that international law can be used with variable geometry
,” continues Natacha Polony.
Which would be a bad signal sent to the
“global south”
, which could in turn flout it.
“The global south did not wait for Israel to do it!”
, Bernard-Henri Lévy gets carried away.
Make way for the cacophony.
“Don't talk over each other, people don't understand,”
Léa Salamé, in blue helmet, puts forward, in order to close this debate which has become, probably due to a lack of moderation, rather sterile.