In each edition of the classic between
Boca
and
San Lorenzo
, like this Saturday for the Professional League Cup (5:00 p.m., in La Bombonera),
Discussions about paternity, numbers and temporality are renewed.
Pure football folklore
. “
We have played so many games! We have to count everything! We only have to take into account one stage! What matters is only the Primera tournament!
”. The statements and arguments, generally without historical rigor, multiply. Even so, there is one certainty:
the Ciclón has a strong paternity over the Xeneize
. But
when exactly did it start?
Boca was founded on April 3, 1905, registered in the Football Association in 1908 and began playing in the First Division in 1913. San Lorenzo was officially born on April 1, 1908, joined in 1914 and debuted in the top division in 1915.
That year they faced each other for the first time
.
On Sunday, November 7, on the field that Boca had Wilde, the local team won 5-0, with this curiosity: three of the five goals were against, two from the central back Alberto Coll and one from his brother José (goalkeeper ) -both re-founders of the club in 1914-. Francisco Taggino and Alberto Galeano scored the others.
In those founding years, Boca's superiority was overwhelming: they won 8 of the first 11 games and barely lost one. In addition, they won the five games they played at home, the one in Wilde mentioned, in the Dársena, in Ferro, in River (Alvear and Tagle) and in the current property, but when it was made of wood. San Lorenzo's only victory was 1-0 on September 8, 1929 at the Gasómetro, with a goal from Arturo Arrieta.
It is read in the announcement of the newspaper La Argentina that day: “
A couple of extraordinary matches serve as the basis for the match program of the first division A. The sustained San Lorenzo and FC Oeste, who will host Boca Juniors and Independiente in their fields , respectively. Of them, the one that will take place on Avenida La Plata 1768 is the one that has aroused the greatest interest among fans, because both opponents, who lead the positions, remain undefeated and have very respectable forces. To the sum of prestige that they have achieved in previous competitions and to the importance that will play in the future of their campaigns
…”.
The start of the chronicle of the newspaper La Argentina in September 1929, after the first victory in the history of San Lorenzo over Boca.
The next day, in the coverage of the 1-0, the newspaper highlights that there were around 40 thousand people in the stadium. “
At 3 p.m., according to reports from the local club authorities, 28,000 tickets had been sold for the popular stand and 6,000 for the official stand
. ”
Almost 30 years after their founding, both Boca and San Lorenzo were already two of the most popular clubs in Buenos Aires soccer.
By 1931, when professionalism began, San Lorenzo had more than 15,000 members and was, along with River, the club with the most members in the new Argentine Football League. Precisely these three, plus those from Avellaneda (Racing and Independiente), managed to have three votes starting in 1937 in the decisions of the AFA Executive Committee. To implement qualified or proportional voting, three issues were taken into account: 20 years in the First Division, more than one title and more than 15,000 members. From then on, the nickname of the big five was born.
It is absurd to start telling the story from 1931.
The AFA's Report and Balance of 1937 recorded proportional voting. Thirteen decades (1891-2017) - 1937-1955How did the nickname of the big five of Argentine football come about? It was on August 4, 1937, when the AFA decided on proportional voting. Boca, River, Independiente, Racing and San Lorenzo now have three votes. soccer history five greats of Argentine soccer soccer afa memory and balance
By 1940, San Lorenzo began to reverse history with Boca. In the first professional decade (1931-40), there were 8 holy triumphs (one for a national cup) and 7 xeneizes. And in total, after 33 games, Boca had 15 wins against Ciclón's 9. After a new decade (1941-50), the advantage had been reduced considerably. After 55 classics, the difference was barely three: 22 victories against 19.
It was in the 50s when San Lorenzo began to strengthen its paternity
, after five consecutive victories: 1-0 in 1951, two 2-1 in 1952, 1-0 and 2-1 in 1953. For the first time, it was on top: 24 to 23. In 1957, Boca regained the advantage, 28 to 25, but in 1959, with another five victories but in six games, Boedo's team went ahead 30 to 29. It was on November 22, 1959, in the victory in the Gasometer by 2 to 1.
San Lorenzo 2 - Boca 1 in November 1959, the chronicle of the newspaper El Mundo.
Since then, San Lorenzo has never been down again in history with Boca
. At that time, the media was already talking about paternity, at least that is what
Clarín
published on September 9, 1968: "The paternity that San Lorenzo de Almagro maintained with Boca Juniors was already prolonged in the Gasómetro as in the Bombonera", Even , by 1972 he was nine games ahead: 43 wins against 34.
A box in Clarín from September 1968 highlights the paternity of San Lorenzo over Boca.
Three years later, the
Clarín
sports supplement of October 13, 1975 headlined: "San Lorenzo returned to fatherhood." However, in 1987 Xeneize managed to tie the classic with 50 victories. And San Lorenzo immediately took advantage again after 1-0 on October 12, 1987, with a goal from Darío Siviski with a header.
Cover of the Clarín sports section from October 1975: the paternity of San Lorenzo over Boca stands out.
Thus we arrive at the 21st century and after two decades of competition, San Lorenzo maintains an 8-game advantage over its classic rival. Since 1915 they have played 211 games, with 83 holy victories, 75 xeneizes, another 52 draws and one game in which they both gave up as lost (the one on December 14, 1990 in La Bombonera, the day Saturnino Cabrera was murdered) . Of the 211 matches, 202 are in the League (77 to 73), 5 in national cups, like this Saturday (3 to 1) and 4 in international cups (3 to 1).
In addition,
San Lorenzo is the club with the most away wins over Boca, in all of history (31 of 93) and in La Bombonera since its inauguration on May 25, 1940 (24 of 74).
The second is River, which played 104 games on Boca's current field and won 22 times. A sample of the high average of the Cyclone, in which he always imposes his paternity. A fatherhood that was built over the years.
What if only professionalism counts? For those who capriciously cut out history, blinded by fanaticism, the numbers are more in their favor, of course. The advantage is 15 games (82 to 67 in 200 games). But it doesn't change anything. Parenting doesn't change. It is strong, it is powerful, it is history.