105: 24 for the lions in the talent competition

Who has the better talents?

The competition between the declared training clubs TSV 1860 and SpVgg Unterhaching caused an amusing summer squabble.

Now, before the first season duel in the third division, the Lions are reviving the debate - with figures that department head Roman Beer interprets as: "1860 is still clearly ahead of Haching."

It is a duel of opposites - not only because Unterhaching is in the district of Munich and therefore can receive the TSV 1860 in front of 1425 spectators.

Two worlds collide tonight: stock exchange club vs.

Investor club, cozy sports park vs.

iconic Löwenstüberl, short-term Bundesliga team (1999 to 2001) vs.

Ex-Meister (1966), until recently also petting zoo vs.

Shark tank.

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1860 is still ahead: Roman Beer has created Excel tables that show that Haching is clearly behind in the competition for talent.

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The last three comparisons were won by the Lions (3: 2, 3: 0 plus the penalty thriller in the Totopokal), which caused a small crisis of meaning in the suburbs.

In addition to dominance in the 3rd league and the city championship, there is another topic that resonates today.

It's about the question: who has the best talent?

The Hachinger, who had the most playing time of young German players in the past season (5361 minutes)?

Or the lions, who won the second largest sum from the DFB's young talent funding pot (303,000 euros) - behind Duisburg, but just ahead of the SpVgg, whose youth training center was not rated as high as the award-winning star NLZ of TSV 1860 until the summer.

As a reminder: The first derby was still a long way off at the end of August when both clubs filled the summer slump with an amusing ping-pong squabble.

The poison arrows flew back and forth for days.

Michael Köllner had started in a late summer chat mood and sounded that 1860 had overtaken the "alleged youth club Haching".

SpVgg President Manni Schwabl grumbled back that Köllner obviously had deficits in mathematics - because 1860 was actually "40 percent less" youth deployment time.

Robert Reisinger, President of the TSV, also interfered briefly and pointedly noted that Haching benefited from having a premium supplier in Nico Mantl, 20, in goal ("74 percent go back to him") - in contrast to 1860 goalkeeper Marco Hiller, 23, who no longer provides any rating points due to age.

Then calm returned for the time being.

Instead of ringing in the next round, Schwabl said to himself: "A bit of saber rattling doesn't hurt local competitors, but at some point you have to go back to the agenda."

Lion list: From A for Nicky Adler to Z for Markus Ziereis

Sixty, on the other hand, is still concerned with the topic - which led to the fact that Excel spreadsheets were diligently created in the background.

The result was emailed to our newspaper, head of soccer department Roman Beer.

Beer's list shows 105 talents from the Löwen who made the leap into professional football since the early 1990s: from A for Nicky Adler to Z for Markus Ziereis.

Haching, on the other hand, only got 24 starters to the professionals: from the Bender twins, whom he generously credits SpVgg - to Karim Adeyemi, 18, who earned Haching a million in 2018 and has now arrived at the RB Salzburg professionals.

1860 refers to the official information on the Haching homepage.

Beer generously leaves the Bender twins to the Haching family

Clearly, according to Beer, the comparison of squads: 62 percent of the current 1860 professionals were trained in their own stables.

On the Hachinger side, on the other hand, the home-grown quota would be 40 percent - with 16 players each, but 1860 had the smaller squad.

“I think the data clearly shows that we are still clearly ahead of Haching when it comes to youth work”, summarizes Beer: “The point of working with young people is to produce professionals.

We're doing very well there. "

At the derby tonight, a number of home grown-ups are expected in the starting XI: Mantl, Markus Schwabl, Lucas Marseiler and Patrick Hufnagel at SpVgg;

Hiller, Dennis Dressel, Richard Neudecker, Phillipp Steinhart and Marius Willsch at 1860. Schwabl is certain that the topic of youth work will play an even bigger role in the future - due to the corona.

“Who has the better talents is not the topic now,” he says: “I think both clubs do very good youth work.

Sometimes one club is ahead, then the other.

In terms of the NLZ rating we are now the same.

The sixties have been downgraded one category (two out of three / Red.), We have one up - we are now on an equal footing. "