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Friends, Season 1, Episode 1: Patrick Van Leven and Raymond Atfeld close over on the lawn
One "much more meticulous, introverted, serious, considerate," the other "a colorful figure. More neighborhood."
The Dutch, who started working together back in 2013, will meet on Saturday for the first time on the lawn on both sides of the barricade.
Ear surgeon: "Raymond is more of a coach and Patrick more of a manager, does not think what he has is suitable for graduates"
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Patrick Van Leven
Raymond Atfeld
Maccabi Netanya
Maccabi Tel Aviv in football
Uri Ozen
Yaniv Tuchman
Thursday, January 21, 2021, 10:00 p.m.
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June 2019, a year and a half ago,
Lior Shechter,
chairman of Betar Tel Aviv Ramla, is preparing to collaborate with the Bat Yam Urban Football Club and he also needs a new coach. Patrick Van Leven, then still the executive director of the youth department at Maccabi Tel Aviv, recommends that he join His assistant Raymond Atfeld. "Patrick told me that if I wanted to upgrade the team, I should take Raymond to coach us in the national league," Shechter recalled. "My relationship with Patrick continues for several years because we collaborated with Maccabi Tel Aviv, so I got the advice. His.
I also knew Raymond and it was not new to me. "And you were
satisfied with the matchmaking?
" I think so.
Beyond the good season we had, we sold Ihab Abu Alshikh to Maccabi Haifa for a lot of money thanks to Raymond.
Ido Shachar made good progress with us, the two glazers, Eduardo Guerrero.
These are all Maccabi Tel Aviv players who developed here.
Our team at the end of last season was one of the most interesting in the two major leagues.
People came to see us to enjoy football.
I was not surprised that Maccabi Netanya took him. "
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On Saturday Patrick van Leven and Raymond Atfeld will meet on the grass on either side of the barricade.
The two Dutchmen who started working together in 2013 in Kazakhstan and became very good friends, will not want to leave anything on the grass.
For 90 minutes, they will leave the companies aside and want to leave the three points with them.
"If you were to tell me in the summer of 2018, when Vladan Ivic coached Maccabi Tel Aviv that in January 2021 Patrick and Raymond would meet each other as coaches of Maccabi Tel Aviv and Maccabi Netanya, I would say it would be a very big surprise, but probably there is nothing surprising in football," says A source at Maccabi Tel Aviv who knows the two well.
"Undoubtedly wonders are the ways of football and that's what's beautiful about it."
Van Leven (51), the young Matfeld in three years, was the first to land at Maccabi Tel Aviv in the summer of 2016 instead of Nir Levin.
His career up to that time had been mostly long terms in youth departments in the Netherlands, Ukraine and Kazakhstan which was his last stop.
While working there at Kairat Almaty he brought in Atfeld whose coaching career had not picked up.
Of the two, Latfeld (54) had a much more impressive playing career.
He played for a variety of teams including Everton in the late '80s, but as a coach he was not really successful.
So shuffled that he decided to go down and work in youth departments.
After three years together at Kairat, Van Leven also brought Atfeld to Maccabi Tel Aviv.
The position given to him was the professional manager of all the groups from boys B and below.
Van Leven was above him, controlling the entire department.
Jordi Cruyff mainly wanted to deal with the professional management of the senior team and later also became a coach.
Van Leven remained the department's executive director.
"There is a lot of difference between Jordy and the two of them, even though the three of them are Dutch," describes a person who knows the trio well.
"Jordi has always stated that he is Catalan. That he was only born in the Netherlands, but he is generally from Barcelona. Raymond and especially Patrick are completely Dutch with everything that the Netherlands symbolizes. And yet there is also a big difference between them."
"I think what he has is not suitable for graduates."
Van Leven (Photo: Danny Maron)
Van Leven, who sent Atfeld as an artist, saw him progress to Maccabi Netanya and maybe that made him an appetite.
In the summer he took the job, until a coach was found for Maccabi Tel Aviv and after the dismissal of Georgios Donis, he took the job.
"I was very surprised that Patrick moved to coach Maccabi Tel Aviv recently," says coach and commentator
Uri Ozen,
who coached the Maccabi Tel Aviv youth team in the summer of 2016, but decided to get up and leave after realizing that he and Wan Leven would not get along.
"I do not think Patrick is a coach and I do not think he wants to be a coach. He came as a professional manager. He never coached. In our conversations I never felt he had aspirations to coach and I also told him in one of the conversations that his path is not suitable for graduates. Because he has been with Maccabi Tel Aviv for more than four years. In all the conversations between us, he talked about being an executive director, so it surprised me that he aspired to coach. A red light came on when I realized that Ivica was separating him from the alumni. Maybe Ivica felt he wanted to take his place and not Allow him to tread in the alumni. Maybe he really has the desire to be an artist. In terms of management he is at a high level. Some will disagree with him but I learned a lot from him about management and organization. Even if we did not agree professionally I appreciated that he has a way and a vision. That he is not suitable for graduates, but days will tell. "
And Raymond?
"I did not work with him, but Raymond is a good footballer. I hear things about his work. He has occasionally coached teams in the past. He was also a senior player from Patrick and had training before landing in Israel. Patrick brought him to be his deputy and the fact that he wanted to coach and left a year ago And a half to Betar Tel Aviv.
Between the two Patrick is more of a manager and Raymond more of a coach.
He has a broader background in coaching.
He did beautiful things in Netanya before it faded a bit, probably in relation to the success at the beginning of the season. "
Do you understand where both Ivica and Donis came from with a full stomach for Patrick?
" Certainly I can understand.
There is nothing more transparent than that.
Anyone who knows the souls at work was not surprised.
Just so you understand, I'm in a very good relationship with him.
I saw him recently and we sat down to talk.
We greeted each other on the phone after achievements.
My departure was professional.
He's on his way and I'm less connected to him.
Jordi and Nir Levin appointed me as boys A and after I took the championship I went up with them to the youth, but after two months I left.
I realized after a minute that we could not work together.
I gave it a chance but realized it could not lead to a good place and it really is not from the personal place.
We got along quite well on a personal level.
I went my way and he went his way and we are on good terms.
We still do not agree professionally.
Ivica and he certainly could not get along and I do not know Ivica.
Ivica only wanted to work with his people and did not trust him.
"Donis got the team from Patrick, so it's more emotional for him, so he's more angry with him."
On Saturday, for 90 minutes, Atfeld will not be considered a member.
Van Leven (Photo: Ariel Shalom,.)
Van Leven and Etfeld are very good friends.
Phone calls, meetings.
Even when Van Leven arranged Betfeld Tel Aviv Bat Yam for Latfeld, he made sure that he would still contribute quite a few hours a week to the youth department of Maccabi Tel Aviv. Despite their closeness, their acquaintances testify that they are two completely different types. "Maybe you drank something last night like Raymond slipped his tongue," says a man familiar with both of their personalities. "Patrick is much more meticulous, introverted, serious, considerate.
Raymond is a colorful character.
More neighborhood.
Patrick is considerate and proportionate.
They are two different people and maybe because they are opposites, they connected so well. "
Their football philosophy is very similar. Not only array and method of play, but also macro-level football. See things the same way." I guess Raymond knows Maccabi Tel better. Aviv from what Patrick knows about Maccabi Netanya, "says a source who knows the two." But it is very important for Patrick to win this game and not because it is a game against his friend.
After Maccabi Tel Aviv's draw against Bnei Yehuda before the break, Maccabi Tel Aviv owes all three points.
Raymond took three important points against Bnei Sakhnin in the last game so the pressure on him is less.
"But to tell the truth, Patrick knows best how much football Raymond has and he has every reason to be apprehensive about this game."
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