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By: Philipp Kessler, Manuel Bonke
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The series of defeats was too much: Bayern coach Thomas Tuchel has to leave in the summer.
But some fans say in the tz: He is not primarily to blame.
Update from February 21st, 1:34 p.m.:
FC Bayern has now announced that it will part ways with Thomas Tuchel in the summer.
First report from February 21st:
Munich - second round exit in the DFB Cup, first round defeat in the round of 16 of the Champions League at Lazio Rome (0-1), eight points behind Bundesliga leaders Bayer Leverkusen.
FC Bayern is threatened with its first titleless season since 2012. After three bankruptcies in a row, Thomas Tuchel (50) in particular is heavily criticized.
The accusations against the coach: no further development of the team since he took office in March last year, no signature recognizable in the style of play, lack of self-criticism after defeats, hardly any connection to the team's important stars.
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Nevertheless, even after the embarrassing 2:3 in Bochum last Sunday, FC Bayern's bosses are sticking with the coach (contract until 2025), who won the Champions League with Chelsea FC in 2021, for the time being.
Some decision-makers are aware of the facts - and because of them, some Munich coaches have had to take their hats off to Tuchel.
However, bosses see a lack of available and suitable alternatives.
Leverkusen coach Xabi Alonso (42/contract until 2026) is considered the ideal long-term solution.
There are also mind games about ex-Real coach Zinedine Zidane (51/unemployed).
The fact is: things shouldn't and shouldn't continue like they are now at FC Bayern, which is so used to success.
All protagonists agree on this.
Tuchel can still prove that he can turn things around.
Before Saturday's top Bundesliga game against RB Leipzig,
tz
asked the fans of the German record champions: Is it right that the bosses are still holding on to Tuchel?
Striving for a turnaround with FC Bayern: Thomas Tuchel.
© Swen Pförtner/dpa
FC Bayern fans about Tuchel: “It is essential to distribute responsibilities fairly”
Alexander Grundler (Rollwagerl 93):
“Football is a dynamic business in which the coach is often the first to be blamed for failures.
But in my opinion this perspective falls short.
We have seen five coaching changes in the last nine years, which points to deeper problems within the club - be it structural weaknesses, interpersonal conflicts or other challenges.
It is time we think outside the box and do a comprehensive analysis instead of following hasty decisions.
Structured, clear action should be the priority.
Instead of rushing to find quick solutions, I advocate using the current season as an opportunity to reassess.
We must question all aspects of club life and identify possible improvements to the situation.
We must not ignore the role of the players.
It is essential to distribute responsibilities fairly and not to present the coach as a scapegoat.”
Gerhard Stadler (Floss 1988):
“The crisis will not be solely the fault of the coach.
But Tuchel does make huge mistakes.
The interviews after the game, for example, are already questionable.
A coach is expected to make the players better.
You can't exactly attest to that.
In addition, there are individual, botched mistakes that are currently putting Bayern on the losing road.
The squad has to be able to compete for titles everywhere.
Instead, the performances are becoming more disastrous week by week.
The players are becoming more insecure.
The bosses don't want to make a quick move like they did when they fired Nagelsmann.
Everyone is to blame for the situation.
Not just Tuchel, although he plays a big part.
If you only talk about a Holding Six for weeks and deny your own players these qualities, how are they supposed to be self-confident?!
He can't just take five players off the island and say they're better than the ones he has.
But the worst was in Leverkusen: It was the most important game and Tuchel chose a line-up that showed that he thought the opponent would be better than Bayern.
That doesn't correspond to the DNA of the club.
I don't think Tuchel is the right one.
Leverkusen was a killing for me.”
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Fans see “lack of alternatives”
Matthias Haser (Kasing Fan Club)
: “My conviction is still that the big mistake happened in March last year when they fired Nagelsmann.
The bad situation we have now has been spreading ever since.
I'm almost certain that the bosses would like to have a coach other than Tuchel.
But the reason why nothing has happened so far is that Bayern don't want to become a coach-destruction machine.
And the second reason is: There is a lack of alternatives.
There is nothing.
I don't think Flick is the right person in this situation either.
This strange idea of making Thomas Müller a player-coach is not an alternative for me either.
The bosses will therefore hold on to Tuchel with all their might for the next week or two and will have to hope that the team and coach can somehow turn things around.
In the summer you will look each other in the eye and decide what makes sense.”
Robert Kailer (13 Höslwanger):
“Almost nothing is going for FC Bayern Munich at the moment.
There are certainly many reasons for this.
I don't think it's right to blame all of this on the coach.
The coach is not on the pitch!
The players are currently unable to convert their best chances into goals.
No coach in the world can do anything about it.
Then there are secondary theaters of war that harm the game and football in general.
Be it dubious press releases that were taken out of context or the tennis ball campaigns that, for me, have no place on the football field.
I generally look forward to every football game.
But if a small part finds a platform here to disrupt the game and the process, I lack understanding.
The protests are to take place in front of the clubhouses of the Bundesliga clubs.
A trainer can't do anything about it.
Mistakes were certainly made.
But now everyone in the club has to stand together.”
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Thomas Hasler (Ilmendorf fan club):
“We are exactly at the same point as a year ago.
But back then, the last coach - Nagelsmann - was far better off at the time of his dismissal in March than Tuchel is now.
However, I think it's not just because of him, but also because of the breadth of the squad.
In my opinion, nothing would change even with a new coach.
You're basically no longer in the running in any national competition.
Except Leverkusen is still as stupid in the season finale as Dortmund was last year, when FC Bayern somehow became champions at the last second on the last matchday.
And of course I hope that the club can progress further in the Champions League.
Either you bring in an interim coach until the summer or you keep Tuchel until the end of the season.
But after that, in my opinion, the team needs to be changed again.”
(Philipp Kessler, Manuel Bonke)