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Ultrad right: Laurent Nuñez notes "a revival of the survivalist or supremacist movement"

2021-01-03T07:25:35.741Z


The national coordinator of intelligence and the fight against terrorism confirms that ultra-right groups remain a "men"


Former Director General of Internal Security (DGSI) and former Secretary of State for the Interior, Laurent Nuñez was appointed, in the summer of 2020, national coordinator of intelligence and the fight against terrorism.

He returns to the threat posed by the ultra-right, a very radicalized universe deciphered by Jean-Michel Décugis, journalist at Le Parisien - Today in France, Pauline Guéna and Marc Leplongeon in "La Poudrière", an essay to be published on January 6 (

Ed. Grasset, 240 pages 19 euros

).

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In your eyes, does this movement really represent a threat compared to that posed by Islamist terrorism?

LAURENT NUÑEZ.

Yes.

The Sunni Islamist terrorist threat has obviously been a priority since 2012. But we have never stopped working on the ultra-right wing.

Since 2017, the DGSI and the gendarmerie have also foiled five terrorist attacks linked to it.

In at least two of the five files, the authors had created TATP (

powerful explosive quite simple to manufacture, Editor's note

).

We exchange a lot of analytical and operational information with our foreign partners who know the same danger.

In the United States, the Sunni Islamist terrorist threat has gone from number one to number two, behind the supremacist terrorist threat, which kills more.

The Biden administration will also create a post of special coordinator on this specific threat.

Have you observed a recent surge in dangers after the assassination of Samuel Paty in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine on October 16 and the attack on the Basilica of Nice a few days later?

After the Sunni Islamist attacks, we still observe a certain agitation of the ultra-right movement as well as a rise in the power of calls for action and revenge on social networks.

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On May 10, 2016, the boss of the DGSI Patrick Calvar already warned about the risk represented by the ultra-right during a hearing at the National Assembly.

Has the threat changed since?

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We are observing a resurgence of the survivalist or supremacist movement, that is to say people who organize themselves outside of traditional trends.

In hiding and through a system of codes, they train to be able to defend themselves the day we are attacked by the Islamists, or to react to an Islamist attack by targeting Muslim objectives.

Has the movement of yellow vests restored vigor to the ultra-right?

Yes and no.

At the start of the movement, the ultra-right tried to take the leadership of the movement on the public highway, especially in Paris, as it had done during the end of the procession of the Manif pour tous.

But, quickly, she was ousted by the ultra-left who saw the interest of infiltrating the yellow vests and teaching them to constitute "black blocks".

But it is clear that we still find a kind of ideological convergence with the ultra-right in the positions of a number of yellow vests.

In particular ultra-yellows who adhere to conspiracy theories, anti-capitalists denouncing the elites or the “Judeo-Masonic” power.

Ultra-left activists were recently indicted for association of terrorist criminals.

It hadn't happened since 2008. Isn't that a new, more serious danger?

For the intelligence services, there is not one movement that would be more dangerous than the other.

The threats add up.

We have always taken seriously the ultra left which, since Action Direct, has a history in France.

With the affair you are talking about, we have witnessed a "rise in range", if I may say so, of the ultra left.

But with a little less than 200 degradations since the beginning of the year, it already has an important breeding ground of passage to the violent act.

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Some of these ultra-left militants were returning from Syrian Rojava (Kurdish).

Do we see the same phenomenon on the ultra-right?

Yes.

We have seen an attraction of a number of ultra-right individuals to go to a number of outside theaters, whether defending Eastern Christians in the Middle East or going to Ukraine. ... These movements are monitored by the intelligence services, both on departure and on return, since these are individuals who, in the area, are trained in the handling of weapons and combat techniques.

Dissolved groups very often reform.

Are not dissolutions a little pointless?

I think, on the contrary, that they are very useful. After the Clément Méric affair, some groups, such as the Revolutionary Nationalist Youth of Serge Ayoub, have not reconstituted. And when they do it anyway, the intelligence services keep watch: those responsible are prosecuted and sentenced for reconstituting a dissolved league.

Source: leparis

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