Thick strips of brown tape bar the smashed green door, the scars of an emergency search.
On the landing of this apartment in Seine-Saint-Denis, a man with an ectoplasmic figure is standing.
He still seems stunned by the events of the past week: arrest "naked" in the middle of the night at his home by the GIGN, transfer to Nancy for a four-day police custody, deferral to the courthouse, indictment. examination then release.
At 60, Jean-Luc W., alias Jeannot, is one of the men suspected of being behind the ultra-conspiratorial commando who kidnapped little Mia on April 13 in the Vosges.
He is the only one of the five suspects to have escaped pre-trial detention.
“I was told that we had to save a child who was prevented from seeing her mother.
That's how I got into this business, ”regrets this fragile sixty-year-old, in a black t-shirt and multicolored Bermuda shorts, who agreed to exchange a few words on Wednesday morning.
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According to the account of Jean-Luc W., the group would have been formed at the beginning of the year, on the sidelines of a demonstration against the wearing of masks and an alleged "health dictatorship" in front of the Ministry of Health. A parade organized every Saturday at the call of the president of the far-right Les Patriotes party, Florian Philippot, and which brings together sovereignists, anti-system activists - even conspirators - or coronasceptics. “At the end of the demonstration, someone approached me and introduced me to the
musician
(Editor's note: Sylvain P., said Pitchoune, a 57-year-old Parisian pianist, also indicted), remembers Jeannot.
We exchanged our numbers.
Did the group use these demonstrations as a potential breeding ground for recruiting members?
Were they just looking for a pigeon, or more if affinities, to support the cause?
I do not know.
"
Conspiracy, a term "invented by the CIA"
Still, according to Jean-Luc W., clandestine meetings - “two or three” - are organized in the following weeks in “a cellar” in the 19th arrondissement, a district where one of the suspects lives. The exchanges are exalted. “The other members were in a final step, in a logic of movement anti-system, continues the sixty-year-old. They said they were breaking with the current political system and considered that there was no longer democracy. They even claimed that their organization was recognized as an
official opponent of
the French state. They mentioned actions against vaccination centers or relay antennas. Me, I listened especially, I was sensitive to ideas but I was not in the same state of mind of action, I tend to forget myself… ”
Jean-Luc W. does not hide being also a follower of sites qualified as conspirators.
For example, he wonders about the existence of subtractions of children "in order to be used during satanic rites to regenerate adults" ... But he repeats that he is not in violence: "There are of course excesses, people who go too far.
But the term conspiracy was coined by the CIA to discredit people who step outside of established thinking, to avoid getting to the bottom of the debate, even if it is against the facts.
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Mia and her mother found in a squat in Switzerland
It was during these discussions that “Operation Lima” was finally put on the table, the one aimed at recovering, on the order of her mother, Lola Montemaggi, little Mia who was placed by the courts with her big brother. -mother. “I was given to understand that the granddaughter did not see her mother when she had visitation rights, and that the situation could worsen, rewinds Jeannot. I was told about the ASE (social assistance to children) which would like to recover it, and, possibly, of pedophile networks. I was not given the details of the operation. The members reassured me by telling me that I would have nothing to do, just drive the vehicle from Paris to the Vosges and bring it back. "
The commando provides Jean-Luc W. with a phone attached to no name to communicate.
For Jean-Luc W., it is clear that Rémy Daillet-Wiedemann, a figure of conspiracy who took refuge in Asia and suspected of being the group's guru, was in charge of the project.
"The others had a certain veneration for Mr. Daillet whom they called by a nickname that I forgot," says the sixty-year-old.
In their speeches, I understood that he was an important reference character.
For me, it is highly probable that it was he who made the decision to recover the child and that the others were charged with the execution.
I understand that the budget for the operation came from him.
The payer is necessarily the instigator.
"
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On Sunday March 11, Jeannot, Pitchoune and Le Corbeau left Paris and its surroundings aboard two vehicles: a Volkswagen Transporter and a Citroën C15. Jeannot is driving the Volkswagen. After having recovered another accomplice, Bruno, and Lola Montemaggi, Mia's mother, they take the direction of the Vosges and the village of Poulières on Tuesday morning.
While Jeannot remains in the car, the other members of the group knock on the grandmother's door, pretend to be youth protection officers and then pick up little Mia, 8 years old. “I was with the mother in the car, the mother confirmed to me that she had visiting rights which were not respected. I found that unacceptable. She may be a mythomaniac, but I don't see the point in lying to someone she doesn't know. Anyway, then I saw the mother find Mia, they both looked happy. "
While Lola Montemaggi and her daughter are exfiltrated towards Switzerland by the rest of the commando, Jeannot, him, returns to Paris, alone.
He will be arrested 48 hours later.
“I sincerely thought that the little girl was in danger, assures the suspect today, who says he is
distraught
.
I believed in the story that was told to me.
I was just an added part of the group.
The suspect appeared this Thursday before the investigating chamber of Nancy (Meurthe-et-Moselle) following the call for his release by the prosecution.
He was kept at liberty.
Lola Montemaggi and her daughter, Mia.
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Formerly the administrative director of a chocolate factory, Jean-Luc W. has been on sick leave for twenty years following a burnout. He receives a disabled adult's allowance and has spent time in psychiatry. In 2001, he hit the headlines when he made up his mind to attack the town hall of his commune of Seine-Saint-Denis, guilty in his eyes of disastrous financial management, with thousands of leaflets. distributed in the mailboxes of all the inhabitants.
This Thursday, the suspect was kept free by the Nancy investigating chamber, which was examining the appeal for his freedom by the prosecution. “This decision is logical,” says Frédéric Berna, his lawyer. “My client is devastated. He is an extremely fragile person, a man adrift. He is very easily influenced. He was manipulated and was absolutely unaware that he was participating in such an operation. "
