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Ninet: "I chose a longer path than the rest, but I know I will get there"

The guilt she felt for the crazy crowd love ("I did not understand why I deserved it"), the contempt for her ("did not understand how an Oriental from the south knows English"), the decision to judge "The Next Star" ("I returned to the battlefield to heal the trauma") and lack The compromise ("I'm building a long-term career").

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Nir Yahav

Friday, May 28, 2021, 00:00

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"I have chills, that the first house begins with 'how easy it is to break down when no one is looking, there is no shelter in the house either.'

What happens to an artist during the day? How is he preparing for the show? And what about the new songs he writes and the way they fit into the Israeli reality, which never ceases to change? And in general - how do you deal with love-hate relationships from the audience and with slaps and blows that are snatched during your career and life? Such and such questions arose in "What's up?", Walla!'S new podcast! Culture, in collaboration with Mifal HaPais, which encourages original Israeli work. In the podcast, Nir Yahav talks with the best artists in Israel and in the first episode - the musician and actress Ninet Tayeb, who on Tuesday is also expected to step into the judge's shoes in "The Next Star" (Keshet 12).

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we met with Ninet just before the ceasefire and a moment after incessant barrages to the southern settlements. "My family is terribly stressed and I am constantly trying to calm my anxiety level," she says. "After all, it is impossible to change the situation, so what we have left to do is not let the wind fall."

And that's exactly the name of the song you released recently.

"I did not know how much this song would be a bull. Wow."

You say there "and I have more hope, the good days are still ahead of us". You even wrote it about yourself.

"I wrote this about ourselves. Someone drew my attention - I have chills - that the first stanza begins with 'how easy it is to break down when no one is looking, there is no shelter not even in the house'. This sentence, Amaleh. Ashkelon and Ashdod and the people who live it every second. We in Tel Aviv tasted it, but my friends, my sisters, did not sleep. And now in Los Angeles there have also been attacks on Jews. My nerves are exposed so I work to lower my anxiety level. ".

How do you do that? Are you saying "do not watch news"?

"First of all reduce the dose of the news. It's impossible. It's a massive and insane brainwashing of information that just puts in anxiety. I tried to fall asleep and couldn't. My body stiffened. I couldn't calm down."

But this is our country. Maybe we will live like this forever.

"No, do not say that, words have power."

"I got 17 shots in the back, they called me a doctor, it was right on the border the 'okay we'm going to cancel the show'

How do you spend your days here?

"Until a few days ago, when it all started, I spent my mornings rehearsing for the shows I was supposed to have. You were at my show, right?"

Obviously.

It's a show you will never forget.

Your back was caught before the show and you hardly took the stage.

Looks like you got a shot.

"I will not forget it all my life, Umayyad. I got 17 shots in the back, booked me a doctor, it was right on the border 'Okay, we're going to cancel the show,' but something in me did not let me give up, like everything in life I'm "I was there. I was there swollen with tears, painful as in the middle of labor. It was unbearable."

Let's go back to talking about your performance ritual.

How does he look like?

"In the mornings I get up and I do with my regular ritual of prayers and meditation and vocal warm-up, but on the day of a performance there are no meetings, no recordings. I just direct a performance. And now I'm pregnant, so I know it's hard to perform. All rehearsals I say to myself: 'I I just hope it's okay with the pregnancy and that and that I can stand and sing and play and be like I am in an electric show. 'Then when the shows were postponed because of the operation I realized that the shows will be postponed and I will be already in the seventh month (Ninet's next show will take place in Zappa Park J). It's going to be challenging (laughs). "

When do you write songs? Mornings? Nights? Do you have certain dates when you free up for it?

"Not necessarily. At the time of creation I really get up in the morning and I start working. I aim for it. During the corona I really took advantage of it and every day I got up, practiced guitar and started writing. I wrote full - Hebrew, English, everything. That's how the song came to me." "Let the wind not fall." For me personally, the Corona period and the disengagement did well. In the end, it's a matter of what you take from each situation and how you channel it into your life and what you choose to do with it. "

"I really make sure to work on making my life better, and not just mine. Through it my life will be better also the lives of those around me will be better because the impact will be different. In the end we are all pipes, really, and we affect the world somehow "All the time. And now when I see the incitement it drives me crazy. People who choose to take that power and spread hatred is terrible. I do not understand. You have so much power, will you not do something good?"

Makes sure to work on making life better.

Ninet (Photo: Lior Keter)

"It does not concern me as it does many other artists, because of everything I went through with the audience, these crazy love-hate relationships."

When you come up with a song - how much do you care what they write in the review?

Will a playlist pass?

How much will it be heard?

"It does not concern me as it does many other artists. I think it is because of the place I came from and because of everything I went through with the audience, these crazy love-hate relationships. It is clear to me that it is important for the song to be accepted and loved, "Releasing a song based on the question of whether they like it or not, it will not change my path and decision-making."

But when you build an album, you do not try to find a mix?

Trying to locate a song with hit potential?

"No, not at all. I always follow my heart's order which means I have to love the song first. I also find the word hit difficult. Precisely because I'm building a long-term career and it's important for me to lay foundations. People for example do not know I have five albums. It's a segment. They think I came, I went, I came back, I failed, I did not succeed. Whoever does not follow me, does not see the way. I do see. Here in the country there is also a very specific style and I do not always belong to this place, to this genre. At Tekel's, I do what I want. "

Would you agree with me if I say that musically you're doing what's in your head but otherwise you're still trying to get into the mainstream? For example, the decision to participate this season as a judge on "The Next Star" or a selection of roles in major series?

"I really do not agree with you. First of all, I do not choose roles by size, it really does not determine in this case. I read the script first and then have to connect. I do not care successful or unsuccessful, big or small. In Zaguri for example I chose "To do a secondary role. I was offered to play Avishag and I thought Lizzie was more suitable for me."

Back to the place of the trauma.

Ninet Tayeb (Photo: Rainbow Screenshot 12)

"Trauma is everything that follows a born star. No one knew then the magnitude of this madness."

And what about the "next star"?

"I came to do this season from a completely different place. On the contrary, the fact that I knew it was going to be something very big it was in the 'not to go for it' table. Every year I am approached by a lot of plans and I always refuse. It sounds silly or weird to you, but "For me, to return to the 'next star' is to heal this place with me. To return to the battlefield and heal the trauma. Just like that."

trauma? To the extent that?

"Yeah, clear. Clear. I didn't know I was traumatic until I moved to Los Angeles."

When I look at the same girl in "A Star Is Born", a 19-20 year old soldier, I see a girl in trauma?

"No, the trauma is all that follows. Listen, the truth is I haven't talked about it so much since. It was just between me and myself to resolve this place. But yeah, the things I went through following 'A Star Is Born,' a 19-year-old girl who succeeds like that. "Wait. It was also a success that could not be explained on any scale. It was also the first season so no one knew the size of it, the madness."

So the "overnight" made you shake like that?

"Following everything I went through in the early years I realized what I didn't want to do, and then basically my new path started that continues to this day. I went through a lot of sailing, and I went back to this place to heal."

Just as psychologists advise trauma survivors - to return to the scene of the trauma.

"But it's really true. I had something this year that was mentally ready to deal with the reflection it was going to do to me, because until that moment it was not something I thought about at all. At first when I was approached I said I was not getting close. "And it was healing - it allowed me to come and close that circle once and for all and move on."

But young guys come to auditions who can snatch the same shock as you.

"That was part of the reason I agreed to come - to give my input on how to deal with this thing and also to direct in the process. In the end there are people with a heart there. I came to give what I can give within the capabilities given to me. Each of the judges came "With his agenda. I can not speak on behalf of others, I know why I am there. And make no mistake, I give a lot of reds, by the way."

Walla?

"Because I have no such thing as a half. Either I do it completely or I do not get into it at all. My heart of course goes out to them but I can not deceive them. Anyway, there are a lot of talented this season. And because it is no longer for the Eurovision, diverse musicians come "Very, artists who come and sing their songs. It was missing in previous seasons."

I have no such thing as a half.

Ninet (Photo: Eran Levy)

"I do not live here. But when I am here I do not get upset. In life you will not see me talking to someone who is not nice or refusing a picture."

What reactions do you get mostly on the street?

"On the way here I went with the guitar and a man turned to me and asked, 'How are you both so beautiful and also playing a guitar?'. At first I did not understand if he was flirting with me. Someone next to him said to him 'What happened to you? It's Ninet.' So the man was in the market. Asked 'Are you really?', I answered 'yes'. Then he said to me 'Listen to me well, you will continue with your saliva and do not give up. You are huge, amazing, bigger than life. "Keep going like this and everyone will explode." I said thank you very much. There are many of them. "

And most of the reactions are in this style or "Why didn't you sing 'Sea of ​​Tears'", "Why did you go to rock 'n' roll"?

"A few years ago people kept asking why I did not sing 'Sea of ​​Tears' in a show but today less. There are always exceptions who are still stuck in 2003 but there are also those who know I released five albums and know my songs. I chose a longer path "But I know I'll get there. I know. I'll get where I want to go, to that in the end it will be accepted the way I want it to be."

And those who tell you "Ninet, what's rock 'n' roll now ?!" Are not bothering you?

"Not anymore. Once when I was less of a spiritual scholar, I was really upset. Like enough, stop already, let go, you do not perceive? How do you not understand? How do you not see me and my soul? Today I understand that they see something and I continue in mine . There is no other way".

How hard is it for every person on the street to look at you or photograph you?

"First of all I do not live here. But when I am here I do not get upset. In life you will not see me talking to someone not nice or refusing a picture. I keep thinking about the other side. This second of my time will do so much good for someone else."

Yossi is involved in almost everything.

I consult with him, his opinion is very important to me

What do you like most about singing in shows?

"It seems to me that the new songs. I like to see the reactions from the audience. I have a song called 'Something to Say' - a song in English that has not yet come out. The burnt out fans already know it and ask when it will come out. I have it and 'Highway' and these two The songs I like to sing the most. "

What is it really like to write a song in a language that is not your mother tongue?

"It feels natural to me because I have written in English all my life. Except for the Jews, Aviv Geffen, Dana Berger and Ronit Shachar, the rest of the music I listened to as a girl was in English. And through music I also learned English. Also in school, full matriculation and everything, but the music improved my English. ".

How involved is your spouse, Yossi Mizrahi?

"Yossi is involved in almost everything. I consult with him, his opinion is very important to me. In the end I listen to myself, and he also tells me 'even then you will do what you want so it does not matter what I say', but I listen to him very much because "He has a different vision. I told him I had never encountered anyone playing the guitar like him except Jimmy Page and Jimmy Hendrix, he really was just wow, lift."

Feels natural to write in English.

Ninet (Photo: Eran Levy)

"I was such an innocent girl, God. I thought a lot about what would have happened if I had not gone to the same audition in 'Star Born'"

If you could give Ninet the girl advice, what would you say?

"Oh, such a sweetheart. I was such an innocent girl, God. I thought a lot about what would have happened if I had not gone to the same audition in 'Born Star' and I came to the conclusion that everything happens bullshit properly. I would not change it. Even today when I know "It brought me a lot of good but also a lot of darkness, it was just necessary for my development as a person and as an artist, so I would not say to myself 'do not go to the audition'. I would tell the nineteen girl 'do not let your spirit fall' the truth."

So you do not regret anything you have done during your life? Not even small things?

"No. In the end I keep coming back to the same point - if I had done it then I probably would not have done it at that time, and then I would not have discovered what I found out now. When the Woodstock Festival, which I was supposed to attend, was canceled - I fainted. We were. Already in New York, with my band and everything, we flew everyone and took my girlfriend to take care of Amelia, and suddenly we were informed of it. I was really mourning it, I had conversations with the Creator. I asked 'what? Why? '. And after letting myself be in my own bass that is also allowed, so I went back to this place of' this is what it should have been '. Why? I do not know. I do not understand anything but I know and trust that I should not be in this place now "If I had not done this inner work I could have gone into depression and black bile."

In the hit "Crazy House" by Ren Danker, he sings: "Say it's not you who was then with Ninet". Did that surprise you?

"It made me laugh. I didn't even refer to that line. For me it's talking about someone else. I didn't dwell on that line, I really didn't think about it. I listened to the song and thought it was really cool."

I gave a lot of reds.

Ninet in "The Next Star" (Photo: Keshet Screenshot 12)

"I was 23-24, holding a guitar maybe a second time in my life ... and suddenly cursing"

You also landed in Corona this year. What was it like to go through that?

The worst part is that I had no taste or smell. I also had fever and pain. It was a nightmare but it passed. In the end it did good for my relationship and family. It forced us to be together, in the same house, not to go out. And overall I really like my husband (laughs). He's a cute and charming man. "

What's the next dream you want to fulfill?

" I really want to release my album in English that I'm working on right now. And there are a few more big things on the agenda in music. "

And what about a acting career? Hollywood?

" Hollywood? I do not know if I got there, but I really want a role that will bring out something in me that I do not yet know about myself. "

We talked earlier about your love-hate relationship with the audience, and of course you can not forget your well-known performance at the Arad Festival where you first sang the songs Yours and the audience were furious.How much this moment shaped your way?

"Very. That was the moment the turnaround began. Think that until that moment I was very much loved everywhere in an exaggerated and illogical piece. I even felt guilty somewhere about this love I get. I did not understand why I deserved it. Really. Then at the Arad Festival where I launched the album "My other started something very dark. The audience turned their backs on me. How could it be so bad?"

Were you angry with the audience?

"I did not get angry. I was offended to the depths of my soul. I was 23-24, holding a guitar maybe a second time in my life, most anxious, insecure, and then suddenly all these curses about music, it did not occur to me. And there something happened to me. I grew up in a second. "It was now or never."

Are you happy about the slap you got there?

"Of course I'm happy. I would not change that. It's a groundbreaking event for me because something happened to me there, from this painful place I actually discovered how strong I am. And make no mistake, I went home after this show and whimpered days after. Only years later did I realize what this show was. "She did something to me. I had something to say, 'I'm going to war now to the end, I will not give up, no matter what you say.'"

Was there a racist element to it as well? Like, who is this Ninet from Kiryat Gat who dares to love Jeff Buckley?

"Yes, obviously. How can it be that an Oriental who grew up in the south knows English? There were really some over the years who did not understand how I know English. And I answered 'I studied at your father's school' (laughs). The whole of Kiryat Gat came out to me. It was It is a kind of contempt that English is not taught in schools in the south. "

And were there other moments like that that shaped your path?

"Be full. In my life every day is a year. Every day is life, so think how much life I live. There is a very, very big gap between who I really am and what people get, the information they get through the media shapes something in people's brains. Everyone Of course he knows me, but no one really knows anything. "

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