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"I want to delete everything called Pablo Rosenberg. Let them not know me. Then start from the beginning" - Walla! culture

2021-07-27T04:21:56.048Z


The desire to reinvent himself, the decision in the career he regrets, the dream he fulfilled after years and the constant pain of his ex-wife who committed suicide ("I did not finish mourning my mother, and this disaster came"). On the occasion of the new season of "Trip After the Army", Pablo Rosenberg opens his heart in a personal interview


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"I want to delete everything called Pablo Rosenberg. Let them not know me. Then start over."

The desire to reinvent himself, the decision in the career he regrets, the dream he fulfilled after years and the constant pain of his ex-wife who committed suicide ("I did not finish mourning my mother, and this disaster came").

On the occasion of the new season of "Trip After the Army", Pablo Rosenberg opens his heart in a personal interview

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Nir Yahav

Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 00:00

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Listen to the podcast here - Nir Yahav's full interview with Pablo Rosenberg:

"I was approached by a female soldier who told me she wanted to end her life, and after the interview in which I talked about my ex-wife who committed suicide - she decided to go for treatment.

"The hardest year of his life" has already become a cliché, but in the case of Pablo Rosenberg there is no choice but to use it - and he is also the first to agree with it. On October 30, 2020, his mother Stella passed away after a long battle with cancer, and exactly one year later, his ex-wife and mother of his older children, Naomi Alsheikh, committed suicide. "When we had dinner to mark a year in her memory, Naomi was still alive," Rosenberg recalled in an interview with the Walla! culture. "Four days later she put an end to her life. It was really tough. Not just her act, but the fact that it was too close. I hadn't finished mourning my mother yet, and another disaster fell on us. Then it once again caught me off guard."



What was that last meal with Naomi, four days before she ended her life?



"She was at her peak. She stayed with us until 11:30 pm. She was happy, she laughed, she was cynical, and we talked a lot about the series I was supposed to shoot soon - 'The Ugly Duckling'. I play Tzuki, the character from the series' Uri and Ella's. "They made a spin-off of her. It interested her very much, because there are elements of my life. She asked if her character was inside and who would play her. I said to her, 'Wait, look.' The last conversation. "



Were there any early signs?



"The corona greatly worsened her condition. Anyone living with clinical depression - it got worse in the corona. That's why Naomi also agreed to be hospitalized for a month in Tel Hashomer. "Pablo, listen, I feel it did not help. I do not feel any change." It was very stressful for her and us. She told me 'I'm not good, I'm depressed,' but between that and suicide - I did not believe it would happen. "



You received a lot of feedback that strengthened you about the decision to come and talk about it openly and without hiding.



"After I was interviewed about it by Yedioth, a female soldier turned to me. She told me she wanted to end her life and after the interview she decided to go for treatment. I cried terribly, because you do not know what effect your openness will have on talking about a subject that is supposedly taboo. "A terrible and terrible disease that is swept under the rug and hidden. There is no shame in talking about it."



Many thought that your and Eran Tzur's openness was brave and extraordinary.



"First of all thank you. I did not at all think whether it was brave or not. I thought it was the right thing. I have met it in my life in person and I have the ability and power to share broadly and talk about the subject. I am not a messenger of these cases but I can talk about the aspect "My personal life as a husband, as a spouse, as a father and as a friend. I hope it will help and influence and empower people who are struggling to share it. Anyone who is suffering from something, and not just major clinical depression, will take care of themselves."



Were you angry after Naomi's suicide?



"It was only that day that I was angry with her. But it was instinct. When you analyze it, there is no escape. She saved herself, she could not breathe."



Was it possible to change her fate?



"My daughter talks to me a lot about the subject. I do not believe in fate, I do not think there is a date marked for us when death appears. I think the meaning of life is to simply live them. To live them as best as possible, to be good people to each other and spread good."

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Do not believe in fate.

Rosenberg (Photo: Reuven Castro)

"Me and Gal Toren had a very big quarrel. It was a quarrel I said 'I don't talk to him,' but after ten minutes we were done. We have a love affair. It's like husband and wife. We know how to climb high and also get off the tree."

Aside from being a great musician, Pablo Rosenberg has been maintaining a successful career as a television personality for several years. Today, for example, it will be possible to see him alongside Gal Toren leading "Trip After Army" which returns for a third season here 11. This time, because of the corona, it was filmed throughout Israel. "We set out with an '85 model trailer to tour Israel's borders for 15 days - we started from Rosh Hanikra in the north and ended up on the enrichment lane in the Gaza Envelope."



Last season you were in Japan, now you are in a caravan traveling in Israel. There's no way you did not get mad.



"What the hell! I enjoy everything, bro."



I heard that you were inside the Hezbollah tunnel during your trip to Israel.



"Yes. It aroused me at the time. When you go in there you say 'there is no limit to the hatred a person can contain' because the other side's desire to dig this tunnel, which took them years, is to kill in the end. It amazes me. In my worldview I Believes that man created good from his youth,So I do not understand where it went so badly. "



What did you find out about Israel in this journey?



"I found out that our country is very small and mostly uninhabited. We drove towards Mitzpe Ramon for two hours and there was not even a gas station, there was nothing. Add to that that people want to settle only in the center, and it is the most expensive country in the world. will be. I end up dying for Tel Aviv. It is one of the great cities in the world. Too bad only breaking costs 35 shekels here and in Madrid it costs euros. It's cruel. "



Who did



you meet

on the trip?

" There are the caravanists. There is no huge community in Israel, but abroad there is. These are people who decide in mid-life to sell houses and start another, calmer life. I thought to myself if I could do it. I told them that in my opinion quiet is something that does not depend on the landscape or situation. Within yourself. "



How was the reunion with Gal Toren?



"We are a loving couple. Really."



Enough, that sounds too idyllic.



"Look, we had a very big fight the last day. It was a fight I said 'I'm not talking to,' but after ten minutes we're done. We have a love affair. It's like husband and wife. We know how to climb high and also get off the tree. Everyone understands "The other one. He claimed I insulted him, but that's not true."

revolving doors.

Rosenberg (Photo: Reuven Castro)

"I do not want to carry the resume I have and what I did and this character. I want to start over. I do not know if it is possible at all, but I correspond within myself with this thing and it is terribly strange to me."

Sometimes you play the game of revolving doors? For example, ask yourself what would have happened if you had completed the medical studies in which you started?



"I know for a fact that I would not complete my medical studies, but it is clear that I play a game like this. When I was six, my father, who was a cardiologist, decided to immigrate to Israel because he wanted to work at Soroka in Be'er Sheva instead of going to Manhattan to work at Mount Sinai Hospital. "The options he faced. I sometimes wonder if I would have become a singer if I had come to New York with my family. What makes me most happy is that I eventually became a singer."



The profession does not "choose you" as many artists say?



"No, I do not believe in it. I think I create reality for myself. It is true that from a young age I wanted to be Yigal Bashan and Shlomo Artzi, but between the illusion and the dream there is a huge gap. When you live in Beit She'an, you are also laughed at when you dream. .



Was there a moment in your career that you looked at yourself from the side and said 'I did it'?



"Wow, I'll cry right away from these questions. I think it happened right at the beginning when Stella Maris and I were signed. I was shocked. It was April 7, 1992. I was 27 and a day old, and all the newspapers had a news story with our picture. The song 'Error' came out. "And everyone played it. I could not believe it."



What has the corona changed in you?



"Listen, at age 55 my dad had a stroke and he almost died from it. He recovered from it against all odds but stopped working as a doctor. For the last nine years of his life he did not work. He moved in with us. My dad was reborn and seemed to learn to walk. When the corona came, I said - 'Wait, what's the pressure? Let's re-learn.' "I want something again. I do not want to carry the resume I have and what I did and this character. I want to start over. I do not know if it is possible at all, but I correspond within myself with this thing and it is very strange to me."



If I understood you correctly, you're talking about reinventing yourself, but you actually managed to do it. After Stella Maris you started a successful solo career in a different musical style.



"So I want to go again."



Which direction?



"I want to do two things I love from childhood - I want to connect Italian music to Greek music. This is the first thing I heard in Beit She'an. Aris Sun, Tryphons, where I am, in these rhythms, in this romance. "Rosenberg, my brother who is also my manager, is full of ideas and he sometimes tells me I'm talking nonsense. But that's how I feel now."

The love for women did not pass me by.

Rosenberg (Photo: Reuven Castro)

"The cast is constantly courting my son Michael. I advised him not to go, because I do not know if he really has the strength and resilience to carry it all his life. Not everyone can resist criticism."

As part of his rebirth, Rosenberg says that this year he finally fulfilled an old dream - to learn to play the piano. "From the age of 16 I had a dream to play the piano. I was afraid of it for years. I felt it was like a pilot course. And six months ago a teacher named Gidi took me, taught me, and yesterday I bought a Yamaha piano. I also want to start writing piano melodies because on the guitar I Going to places I'm already used to. "



Part of the fun in your life is also combining music, acting and serving, no?



"I really like the combination, but if you ask me - then I would rather write songs, record them and perform. I'm burnt out singing. I have to sing."



Do you miss judging reality? You once judged "A Star Is Born."



"Yeah, I'm upset I'm not judging reality anymore. I feel like I'm good at it. I like it. It's not judging to tell someone 'you're a guillotine.' I'm a coach, I'm therapeutic.I know how to guide people. "



When you look at Ella-Lee, a 16-year-old girl in total who becomes a huge star overnight.

This success that comes because of reality may not completely shake a young person?



"Yes, it can shake. But you need mental resilience."



Noam Banai was in the next star, auditioned and then decided to retire.

He preferred to go the traditional way.



"The cast is constantly courting my son Michael. I advised him not to go because I do not know if he really has the strength and resilience to carry it all his life. Not everyone can resist criticism. It is not like before. Today you snatch in a second on the networks "Socialism. People commit suicide because of these things."

Not insulting.

Rosenberg (Photo: Reuven Castro)

"In 1995 I came to New York with demos in English for a few songs because someone very senior was passionate about me. Someone in Israel who was linked to him got dirty on me and told him 'don't mess with Pablo. He's a junkie.' So they closed the door for me. I was terribly offended."

How hard is it for a singer to accept failure or criticism?



"Obviously I prefer to be told how amazing I am, but criticism does not insult me. It's not that I'm insulting, but I'm in a profession I'm already used to insults."



Can a bad review of your series or your song ruin your day?



"No. Only people I love can spoil my day. I'm been in this business for thirty years. Everything is balanced. Today a critique of an album or a song is not so influential, as critique of a restaurant, for example. People read a critique of a restaurant before they go to it. "If someone writes a bad review of a song, you can go to YouTube, listen to the song and decide for yourself."



Are there any decisions in your career that you regret?



"In 1995 I came to New York with demos in English for a few songs because someone very senior was passionate about me. Someone in Israel who was linked to him got dirty on me and said 'don't mess with Pablo. He's a junkie.' So they closed the door for me. I was terribly offended. "I was twenty-nine and I went home. I didn't even try to find out why. I was offended and left. I wonder what would have happened if I had released songs there. Maybe that's the only regret but I live with her in peace."



What music are you listening to now?



"Alex Cuba. This is a Cuban musician who lives in Canada, he writes wonderful music and he did a duet with Antonio Cremona."



Do you make sure to keep your hand on the pulse and listen to new songs?



"Yeah, I'm up to date but I don 't change the playlist. I'm stuck in the seventies. Paul Simon once said that the acquired musical taste crystallizes between the ages of ten and fifteen and then it's stuck. It's just me. I lived in the seventies and that's what I like. "For the clonial photography of the seventies, for this slowness. I miss the music of yesteryear. Today everything is production. Shalom Hanoch also referred in your interview to the gap between what he writes and until it comes out. You should not touch the song too much. There is nothing more beautiful than your guitar and voice."

Lives in harmony at home.

Rosenberg (Photo: Reuven Castro)

"I am a father of three children and a husband, and I have to take care of everyone if anything happens. God forbid. I put money aside and when the corona came, I realized I had. I told my family that nothing was going to change."

How much did the corona worry you?



"Financially she caught me ready. I realized long ago that a day would come and I would have less, and that I had to prepare for it. I am a father of three children and a husband, and I have to take care of everyone if something happens. God forbid. To change nothing. "



The corona did good for your relationship?



"We live in very great harmony so the corona did not catch us with cracks. We became more sticky between us. But what did happen to me was that I had a very hard time in the first shows after we came back to perform. After a year and a half I had rust. I felt not as good as I used to. This month I performed a lot and felt better than before. "



How do you maintain your voice?



"I do not get upset, I sleep a siesta, keep a diet, do sports, do not smoke, drink wine and on performance days in low doses. Wine is my only Guilty Pleasure.I really like it and even want to develop my own label. "



What is your big professional dream?



"Meet Berry Gibb from the BBJs and sing with him. I want to hug him, kiss him and tell him I'm burned on him and tell him he and Paul McCartney are idols of my youth and they taught me everything. Paul has no chance to meet but I almost met Berry in Miami this year "Maybe it will happen again."

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