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"I'm not afraid of wars, and believe me I got into a lot of trouble in life because I was not afraid" - Walla! culture

2021-08-21T21:45:43.912Z


Disappointed with Corona deniers ("captives in the concept that saddens me"), reluctant of Ohad Knoller's response to Miri Regev's steps ("When there is an aliyah, Shaham should intervene"), and ready for a struggle ( Shaham chairman Ricky Bleich marks goals. Interview


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"I'm not afraid of wars, and believe me I got into a lot of trouble in life because I was not afraid."

Disappointed with Corona deniers ("captives in the concept that saddens me"), reluctant of Ohad Knoller's response to Miri Regev's steps ("When there is an aliyah, Shaham should intervene"), and ready for a struggle ( Shaham chairman Ricky Bleich marks goals. Interview

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Sunday, August 22, 2021, 12:30 p.m.

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Ricky Bleich (Photo: Courtesy of the photographers, Avital Peleg)

18 years after actress Ricky Bleach made a big breakthrough when she took on the role of "Ugly Esti", she is now entering the role played by the talented Esti: Chairman of Shaham, the actors' organization. Bleich was chosen to replace Esti Zakheim, who has served in the position since 2017, in difficult days for the world of culture and creativity in the country - the corona plague is intensifying, threats of further closure are heard again - and many plays and shows are canceled.



Blich's appointment as chairman of Shaham seems to be good news for the actors also because of the experience she has gained as one of the leaders in the struggle at the Habima Theater. "I study fights as a member of the Habima Actors' Committee, which is why I went to Shaham," Blich tells Walla! Tarbut in her first interview when she took office. "I went through quite a few bumps and upheavals. We were told, 'You have no chance.' Tried to get the air out of the sails. In the end, we always succeeded. "



What did you learn from your struggle at the National Theater and apply it under the leadership of Shaham?



"I learned that there is money in the world. If you are strong, apply pressure and know how to do it right - you increase your share of the pie. I have learned that everything is open and anything is possible. I am a socialist at heart, strongly believe in the power of association. "He has a job. I learned to undo that perception. The theater needs us, the actors, more than we need a job."



Bleich takes office at a tumultuous moment when the struggle of the self-employed, including cultural figures, resumes against the backdrop of threats to exacerbate the corona's restrictions. Last night (Saturday) a demonstration took place outside Prime Minister Bennett's home in Raanana, in which the protesters demanded immediate financial support and compensation for the self-employed who are already affected by the Corona restrictions. " To the media and says 'please do not just go out, do not gather if there is no need' - then our audience in the repertory theater, which is older on average, cancels tickets. Now that there are winds of closure, it is clear that you will not book a ticket for the show until the end of September. So basically there is a psychological closure, an informal closure. We say, 'Okay, but treat players like people who are in a quarantine.' And there are rumors that they will increase crowd restrictions for 100 people. No theater in the country will open its doors to 100 people, except for the small fringe theaters. For the stage,The Cameri and Khan opening in this situation would be an economic suicide. It is delusional that we are in this situation again - you had a year and a half to prepare a plan. "

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Ricky Bleich (Photo: Courtesy of the photographers, Avital Peleg)

Those who have taken a particularly hard hit these days are the children’s plays.



"True, there are about 80 percent cancellations in children's plays, which are the basis for earning the vast majority of actors in Israel, including me. I work on stage and television but still do children's plays because there is a lot of work there. We are talking about a death blow to actors in Israel. Talk about the culture of the children, who have not been exposed to the theater for two years. There is nothing more important than exposing our children to the culture, especially when the content of children's performances is usually social, educational and positive. "Machines of grades and discipline? This is the air to breathe."



On Wednesday, representatives of Shaham and other organizations met with the director general of the Prime Minister's Office, Yair Pines, and representatives from the Ministries of Finance and Culture, but no regular assistance plan was agreed. What did you demand and what was the atmosphere like?



"I was not present at the meeting, but Shaham CEO Avi Ben Hillel was present. The spirit at the meeting was not simple. The main problem between us is that there is no agreement at all that this is a de facto closure. 300 children and put them in the hall. We will not do that. You will go and pay for a test, so that your child will see 40 minutes of showing children in the community center?

Our suggestion is to start talking about compensation for performing artists who are likely to have a third year parked.

"From the Ministry of Finance, we hear sentences like 'The sick party is over.' We must start talking about compensation or a mechanism that will allow us to survive. Hopefully we will get there without wars. But we are also ready for wars."

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Ricky Bleich (Photo: courtesy of the photographers, Sivan Sapir)

Although Shaham has taken positive steps such as the important handling of Social Security matters, a number of players have complained that the organization, prior to taking office, did not function optimally in the year and a half of the corona in the aftermath of the crisis. Demonstrations, for a voice in all the important committees and for the distribution of food and money to the players. This vacuum entered an external organization, "Order 8", which led the struggle in your place.



"In every trade union, no matter what you do and how you act, there will always be complaints. That's fine, criticism is the most important thing. As someone who went through the corona as a member of the Habima committee, I know that Shaham did nights and days. Listen, a miracle happened to us. Years ago, Uri Rashtik, the former CEO of Shaham, in collaboration with the National Insurance Institute, reached an arrangement that also defined non-theater actors, as soon as they work more than a certain quota, as if they were theater employees, and provide them with Social Security. Then the plague broke out, and the vast majority of the players in the country, who are not employees like me, receive unemployment benefits. A colossal disaster was averted here. When the plague happened, Shaham sat for months, went player-to-player, and solved the problems in direct contact with Social Security. Beyond that, there was also social and psychological support. So there are always such and such claims. I do not encourage internal battles, it is the most debilitating thing. "Why not say: 'What a beauty, you did X, and they did Wow. Why do you have to make complaints? I do not accept this criticism."



What did you think of the Corona deniers and the Orna Fitoussi affair, who was fired from her role in the second season of "Manaich" due to her refusal to get vaccinated or have a Corona test?



"It hurts me for every player who loses a job. Our job at Shaham is to make sure that as many players as possible work as much as possible.

I am vaccinated but I will always defend the right of people not to be vaccinated, the individual right over your body is yours.

But as for the tests, I can not back it up.

Because no matter what my opinion, whether I deny or not, there are currently procedures in Israel, according to which if there is a corona patient on a set he is closed for two weeks, and then everyone who was there, actors and non-actors, loses his livelihood.

All these players are asked to do is get tested.

I have a very hard time with the arguments of the opponents of the tests.

Let’s say they think the world has gone crazy and everything is dumb, but it is solidarity, even if most basic, with the set you are about to work on.

I do not understand and can not back up actors and actresses who are not willing to be tested, and will not change my mind.

I do not understand their motives, they are captivated by a concept that simply saddens me. "

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Bleich (41) first appeared on television as a child on Channel One's "Catching a Head" program, alongside her friends at an art school. She later starred in Gila Almagor's Busy Similar Tree, for which she was nominated for an Ophir Award in the supporting actress category. In her youth, while studying at the stronghold of secularism - Thelma Yellin High School of the Arts - her mother, father and sister repented. After not enlisting in the IDF, she studied at the Kibbutzim Seminary. Over the years, she acted in various theaters and especially on the stage ("The Father", "Perfect Wedding", "Monogamy"). She also starred in the sequel "Elvis, Rosenthal and the Mysterious Woman," "Epidural," "Short," "I Didn't Promise You," "One Zero Zero," "The Pencil Cases" and "What Seven," and in the movies "Imaginations" and "Correction." .

(Photo: Photo: Zvi Usofsky, PR)

Your predecessors in office, Esti Zakheim and Ohad Knoller, were different from each other.

Knoller is said to have been more involved in the day-to-day running of the organization, and Zackheim conducted himself in a more representative manner and let the office work.

Which approach are you more connected to?



"Look, I hope to be something that combines the two. Ohad's attitude was very belligerent. He reached very impressive achievements, touched on the most painful things, which is money, and greatly improved the minimum amount a player can be paid for a day of filming. It cost him a heavy price. Very much in a relationship with producers, who are the bosses of the actors. I remember him winning the thorough and brave work he did but there was something that went into battle in his management method. Esti was very motherly, like a president, and it is also very important, psychologically and mentally. "To. I, I have both sides. First of all I do not want to go up on barricades. My plan is first of all to have coffee with each of the union leaders we work with. I think a lot of things can be resolved in a good spirit.



"And listen, Shaham is not the same Shaham. I enjoy the achievements of my predecessors a bit. When Yoram Hatav started, I was 15, I worked on the first channel in drama and received as a payment - coupons to Mashbir to the consumer. I swear to you. Because I did not have an agent then, There was no union. Hatav started from scratch. Today we are a completely different organization, and it has a name that it did not have even when Ohad was chairman. It is getting stronger. And I hope this name works for me. But I'm not afraid of wars, unfortunately the rabbi, I say this because I got a lot entangled in life with this fearlessness of mine. "This is not a profession that people like too exposed." When



Ohad Knoller was chairman of Shaham, he was harshly criticized by actors and actresses after he did not oppose the violation of freedom of expression by former Minister of Culture Miri Regev. Five of Shach's board members M. resigned on the grounds of Knoller's weak response to the moves and statements of Regev and Naftali Bennett, the then Minister of Education. Now Bennett is the prime minister.If he violates freedom of expression, will you behave differently from Knoller?



"If that happens, I'll be on the barricade. After Orna Banai made a left-wing statement, lost a campaign and absorbed a crazy public outcry, I called Knoller who was the chairman, and asked him - where is Shaham? Why are Shaham not making their voices heard? And Banai was not the only one, there was an atmosphere about them about players in general, Gila Almagor also absorbed from her. There was a feeling that we were the enemies of the people and there were those who pumped it for its needs. Knoller told me: Look, I am not only the chairman of Orna Banai, there are 2,500 members in Shaham with a lot of political opinions, the fact that the leftists make a lot of noise does not mean that everyone thinks like them, so I choose not to take a political side I do not agree with him. I love the big love fan, we are friends from the fifth grade, and our lives are intertwined for many years, but we think differently. I think there is room for intervention. Shaham should have intervened when Miri Regev created some A very murky wave, which to this day the bastard spinners use,That is, our position as leftists-anti-Israel-opponents of the regime. This is ridiculous and wrong branding. I am willing to promise that I will not do this just for the benefit of one political side of the map. Even a case like the interview with Ethan Fox, who said he has a problem working with a right-wing player, is not acceptable to me. "Even in such a case, Shaham should raise an outcry. I am not prepared for actors, from both political sides, to pay a price for expressing opinions."

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Which reminds me that in the same wave of criticism of Knoller, Almagor shouted at him at the theater awards ceremony: "You are a coward, you are a rabbit, you can not speak on behalf of the artists' organization."



"True, and she also retired from Shaham because of that, because she had a problem with Shaham's silence like mine was a problem, and she did not return. I really want to bring her back to the organization. "She has the courage to always say her opinion, even when she's unpopular and not in the mainstream. She's a real survivor. She gave me the first role in my career and we play on stage together to this day."



Are you afraid of the good spoons of the role, done voluntarily, the complaints of actors, and possible threats from producers and cultural bodies that may not cast you as an actress as closing an account of your struggles?



"I would be lying if I said it did not bother me. But unfortunately it does not bother me enough, and it never stopped me. I spoke with Knoller recently, and we said we are already pretty lost, our image as people who pursue justice and militant is not from today. "He has been working with me since the days of the kibbutz seminary and has now told me that even then the management was afraid of me. But it was always for the benefit of the students and justice. I was born that way."

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Ricky Bleich (Photo: Courtesy of the photographers, Avital Peleg)

The day after the corona and perhaps even earlier - what is the main challenge you mark for an organization that is not related to the plague?



"So first of all I want to unite the lines, that it is always important, to bring back those who may have been a little distanced and maybe a little hurt, to try to remind all of us that our strength is in our unity, and that we are all really on the same side of the barricade. I want to get strong into acting schools, I have to start educating the players for self-esteem in the first year, educating them to complain if they are harmed, abused and sexually harassed. These are things that have not yet disappeared from the world, certainly not in acting schools To do everything just to develop as an actor. I want to improve the work agreements in television and film. Television productions are deteriorating in terms of production adequacy and become work right on a moving film. There are some productions I heard about with such a fast pace of work, Us to the machines of oral learning.When you are given ten minutes to make a scene, you certainly can not play."And most of all, I want to educate my friends and fellow actors not to be ashamed, not to work cheaply, not to sell themselves cheaply, and to understand that they really deserve it, it's a job like all jobs."



Why is there such a big pay gap between the "talented" players and the other players?



"On television, the gap is reasonable and not shameful. Shaham did a great thing once they established the minimum interest. It was a very socialist move. It has upgraded all the weak, novice, least known and least employed artists. From the Wild West of sums where they could be called to be photographed for a few hundred shekels - it was upgraded to a reasonable plus status. A minimum of NIS 2,200 or NIS 2,400 per day of photography is a respectable amount. But to her and a thorn in her side - as far as producers are concerned, if there is a minimum, they will pay the minimum, why pay more? On TV the only problem is with the midfielders, who are most of the actors including me. I, who earn more, have been lowered towards the minimum. I do not scratch it but it gives producers the option to download.



"The big problem was and remains the theater with the talent salary that can skyrocket. Look, I'll never bet to lower someone's salary. We have to put pressure on the theaters, and it's starting to happen. Once upon a time there was a real wild west, there were stars with crazy salaries like $ 1,200 It's totally wrong, because theater, unlike television, does not have infinite ratings, the amount you can put into a show is limited, so the talent of the talents will come at the expense of the money of others. But it's balancing. The municipality will not allow more sums without a ceiling. "



Blich adds that the large salary gaps in the theater are what led her to Habima's actors' committee in the first place.

"When I was younger, I played with that kind of talent on stage. He would get NIS 4,000 for the evening, and I would get NIS 400. We had roles of the same size, it's not that he was Hamlet or King Lear, we played for the same time and the same amount of text, just "That he received 10 times as much as I did. Since then things have improved, at least on the stage there are no longer the lower ranks. But there is still room for improvement."

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there is room for improvement.

Ricky Bleich (Photo: Courtesy of the photographers, Avital Peleg)

Why is it so rare for new players in the market to enter the theaters?



"One of the reasons for that is that there is not enough turnover of artistic directors. A lot of it has to do with not refreshing the managements. The bosses in the theater will kill me now. But this is a big problem. There is a lot of work for Culture Minister Hili Trooper, "Of the turnover of people - also of creators, playwrights and directors. There are cliques, directors like to work with actors they know. There is the interest of the regular band.



In the play "Shame: Talkbacks about theater" by Einat Weizmann, she has a section in which she describes how she is harassed on the street because she is a leftist. So once, after someone approached her nervously and asked "Are you Einat Weizmann ?!", she answered him "No I am Ricky Blich".



"We're just awfully similar, we even once played the same girl in a movie. She told me about this story and I gave her my blessing to use my name whenever she wants. I told her, whenever you want you will be Ricky Bleich, and I will be Einat Weizmann when I come to the checkpoint demonstration.



"I really appreciate Einat. If anyone here is brave - this is her. She really plays where it's dangerous and dirty and hard, and has suffered hard talkbacks. I got much worse talkbacks for much less. Once I came back from London, there was another military operation in the country, and I said in an interview That I miss cool London, where there are no conflicts, nor do I care if there are conflicts. Something like that. Really gently. And what talkbacks I got. They sent me to Gaza with my daughter to be raped and murdered. I just could not believe my eyes. Speaking of why we need culture and why we need Send our children to the theater.These are uncultured people, those who can not imagine themselves or their daughter absorbing such "wishes" .The inability of them to put themselves in my shoes.This is exactly what theater teaches you - to empathize with another person's pain. "Say, hey, I'm like her too. It's a culture, and these are uncultured people."

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