Can we still bring children into the world with a clear conscience?
Johanna Buchmann has a picture in her mind: she is standing in the garden with her children, a dog is romping around her.
"This idea is destroying the climate crisis for me," says the 25-year-old.
She is involved with Fridays for Future, but the prospects are too bleak for her family planning.
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The climate activists Johanna Buchmann (left) and Marit Schatzmann after the SPIEGEL interview on the sidelines of a Fridays for Future rally in Berlin
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Marius Mestermann / DER SPIEGEL
Marit Schatzmann has a son who will soon be three years old.
And she can imagine more children, although she takes the climate crisis just as seriously as Johanna.
Why do they draw different conclusions?
How widespread is the fear that your own children will not have a future worth living in?
Climate protection minister Robert Habeck is also concerned with this question, he said in a SPIEGEL interview: "Understandable, the climate crisis is reality."
Are these fears so strong that they are still driving demographic change?
Or would it even be better for the climate not to have children?
We talk about this in the climate report podcast, together with Johanna, Marit and the population researcher Martin Bujard.
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