NDR virologist Sandra Ciesek talks about the latest corona studies, her personal experiences in Italy and why men are threatened with a more severe course.
In the
Spiegel interview
,
virologist Sandra Ciesek speaks
about the latest developments
regarding
the
coronavirus
*
She warns urgently against playing down
the dangers
Meanwhile,
on
Twitter
, the
interview is
causing
major protests
under the hashtag #frauenquote
Munich - The coronavirus numbers
continue to
rise across
Europe
and
Germany
,
too,
has more and more
record numbers
to report.
In order to classify the developments,
virologists have
become our constant companions during the pandemic: whether in the headlines, on TV talk shows or in podcasts.
Christian Drosten has now even been awarded the Federal Cross of
Merit
for his educational work on the
coronavirus
.
Alternating with Drosten, virologist Sandra Ciesek has also been heard regularly on the NDR
podcast
since September
.
As director of the
Institute for Medical Virology
at the
Frankfurt University Hospital
, Ciesek knows what she is talking about.
She teaches at the
Goethe University
and has recently been on the
board of the Society for Virology
.
In a controversial interview with Der Spiegel, she talks about the latest studies and developments.
I'm looking forward to working with @NDRinfo and supporting this great podcast in the future: "Coronavirus Update" now with Drosten and Ciesek https://t.co/clNjret517
- Sandra Ciesek (@CiesekSandra) August 27, 2020
Virologist warns of trivializing coronavirus and recalls horror scenarios in Italy
Her clear motto:
deaths
must not just be swept under the table,
business
or not.
“For me, every single life counts,” explains the
professor
firmly.
The question of
restrictive measures
to
prevent
the
spread of the coronavirus
is an ethical one for Ciesek.
"Is everyone prepared to limit themselves so that as few people as possible
die of
Covid-19
?"
As a warning, the virologist talks about her
personal experiences in Italy
.
The
virus had
hit particularly hard here.
We only remember the shocking pictures from Bergamo, where in March the coffins of the
coronavirus dead
had to be removed
by a truck of the
Italian army
en masse.
"So many people there have lost someone in their family, many are still in shock." The numbers are also rising dramatically again.
The virologist warns against ignoring the dangers of the virus.
It is "really tiring how the
standard knowledge
about the
dangerousness of
the new coronavirus is questioned again and again." After all, the death rate is also rising in Germany.
Virologist on Corona in Germany: That's why Denmark is a good example
A good
example for Germany
, straight from the neighborhood, could be
Denmark
.
Sandra Ciesek emphasizes how well the measures have helped there recently.
In fact, the strong
increase in the number of cases was
slowed down
in Denmark
.
The
Danish measures
, incidentally, are very similar to the new, adopted for Bayern regulations: The restaurants and bars close at 22 o'clock, there is a mouth guard duty in certain areas, celebrations and meetings with more than 50 persons are prohibited.
New study on the coronavirus: This is why men are more likely to have a more severe disease course
In addition to her “
Safe Kids Study
” on the spread of viruses in daycare centers,
Ciesek
also
talks
about a
study by her colleague Jean-Laurent Casanova
from
Rockefeller University
.
Above all, it warns men of a serious course of the disease.
In patients with such a course,
special autoantibodies were
found.
They are particularly present in men.
"That could explain why they suffer from severe disease significantly more often than women."
We have been silent for a while because our lab and the CHGE were entirely focused on finishing 'twin papers' in @ScienceMagazine about inborn errors of type I IFN or auto-antibodies to type I IFN in nearly 15% of patients with life-threatening # COVID19 😀 https://t.co/E85pF1Kg88 pic.twitter.com/somAJsoVAM
- Casanova Lab (@casanova_lab) September 24, 2020
"Quota woman" - massive criticism of the Spiegel interview with Sandra Ciesek: virologist speaks up
The
Spiegel interview
with
Sandra Ciesek
did not
cause a
stir because of the professional assessments or information.
On the
Internet
and especially on Twitter, the
questions posed by the authors
(
Veronika Hackenbroch
and
Rafaela von Bredow)
caused a real
shit storm
.
They started the conversation with the question “Do you realize that you are the
quota woman
?” And described the style of their podcast as “adult education center”.
Many ask themselves: why does
gender have to
be
discussed
first
and not the
expertise of
the
virologist
?
After the
protests
grew louder and louder
,
Ciesek
also
spoke up
.
As Vice Dean for Young Scientists and Diversity, I consider gender discussions to be right and important.
With the interview, I actually wanted to contribute professionally (virologically) on the subject of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic and clarification.
There is much to do!
- Sandra Ciesek (@CiesekSandra) October 17, 2020
These are underground questions from @derspiegel.
The proven stereotypes towards women do not stop at an outstanding scientist.
They will only subside when we see more women in leadership positions.
Keep up!
#Now is it #I will
- Jutta Allmendinger (@JA_Allmendinger) October 17, 2020
The
sociologist Jutta Allmedinger was also
angry about the “underground questions” in the
interview.
Not only do various authors, politicians and journalists agree: thousands of users are angry.
Under the hashtag
#quotenfrau they
express themselves in over
1,800 tweets
on the topic.
In the future,
Sandra Ciesek will
no longer be
perceived
only as the "
woman at Drosten's side
", but will be recognized for her specialist knowledge.
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