Many topics were discussed. In an interview with Radio J - which will be broadcast in the morning this Sunday but whose content has already been unveiled - the Prime Minister returned to the burning immigration bill, now at the top of the pile of government priorities after being postponed for a time. She also raised the issue of the France's debt, a few days before the rating by the financial agency Standard and Poor's.
- Attacks on the RN
Among the themes raised, the National Rally of Marine Le Pen, which, according to Elisabeth Borne, has not changed and is still an "heir of Petain". "I think you shouldn't trivialize your ideas, your ideas are always the same (...). I think that a change of name does not change the ideas, the roots," she teased, criticizing the fact that the daughter of Jean-Marie Le Pen had never denounced "what may have been the historical positions of her party".
In this context, the Prime Minister also evoked the position of the RN on Russia and the Ukrainian conflict, denouncing an "obvious proximity" with Vladimir Putin. Proximity that she also reproaches a part of the extreme left.
However, Elisabeth Borne does not put "equal sign" between the RN and LFI, she assured. "I say that the most dangerous, that the ideology that is fundamentally dangerous, is that of the far right," she concluded, not ruling out the risk of a victory of Marine Le Pen in 2027.
- Towards stronger penalties for driving under drugs
Elisabeth Borne was also questioned on the issue of driving under drugs, which has been in the news in recent months. The head of government assured that she would convene an "interministerial committee on road safety" by July. "The sanctions ... must probably be strengthened for those who drive under the influence of drugs," she said.
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This fight will also involve an increase in controls, the goal being set at "one million" against 800,000 in 2022. But also, perhaps, by a change of law. Elisabeth Borne recalled that the Ministers of Justice and the Interior were currently "looking" at the possibility of creating a traffic homicide offence, knowing that currently the acts of drivers under the influence of drugs causing the death of a person fall under the scope of "manslaughter".
- Discussions on the France's debt
Another topic at the heart of the discussions - and news, since the financial agency Standard and Poor's will give its rating at the beginning of June for the France: debt. "I think we are carrying out reforms, we recently presented a trajectory of our finances until 2027 in which we want, as the President of the Republic had promised, to reduce our deficit to 2.7% (of GDP) in 2027," she said. "We also have the commitment in this trajectory to reduce our debt," assured the Prime Minister, explaining that the Minister of Economy had launched "very close discussions" with the financial agency.
- The EU's place on immigration
Is this a way to regain control of the subject? Elisabeth Borne considered that, on the issue of immigration, decisions should be built within a "European" framework. A clear way to respond to the words of some Republicans, who want to include in the Constitution the possibility of derogating from European law when "the fundamental interests of the nation" are at stake.
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The right intends to flex its muscles with two very firm bills on immigration, to engage in a showdown with the government, which has launched consultations on this subject. The LR parliamentarians have already submitted a constitutional bill to the Assembly and the Senate.
"There are difficulties that the French may experience who expect effective answers rather than slogans, constitutional reforms," commented the Prime Minister, recalling having "asked Gérald Darmanin (...) to conduct consultations on the basis of proposals that may have been made by the government", and saying it was ready to discuss "with other parliamentary groups that share the concern and desire to improve the situation on these migration issues".