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Oded Paz: "Even after 20 years in the profession, I am planting a foreigner in the entertainment industry"
Oded Paz disagrees with Tal Musari that the children's channel has ended its journey ("he spoke after being hurt by them"), believes he has no substitute as a facilitator for "Boys and Girls" ("There is no program without me"), reveals how his father's disability changed him ("I became a child") Different ") and reveals what the chances are for the unification of the" pajamas ".
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Moral Tal
Sagi Ben Nun
Thursday, October 29, 2020, 12:00 p.m.
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A peek at the seventh season of "Boys and Girls" on the Children's Channel (Children's Channel)
"A lot of the things we did in the 'pajamas' series would not pass the reviews today," says Oded Paz.
"At the beginning of the first season, Alona Tal sits down on the couch and the three of us (Paz, Kobi Faraj and Ilan Rosenfeld - SB) smile, drool another moment, and blink at her.
Everything she says we say yes, yes, yes, go out with me.
It's cute and adorable and funny and in my opinion did not cross the line of good taste but today such a thing could have been shouted at.
There was talk of wanting or how men treat women.
I like that in recent years there has been meticulousness in these matters, correcting each generation can do us good. "
Paz, one of the most talented and charming presenters and comedians, is required to address the issue of objectivity in light of the storm that arose over the line And Ben El and his new partner for submission on the children's channel, Anna Zack. "In this line in Static and Ben El's song with Anna Zack they could have been more politically correct, give it up, and then all this would have been spared," he says. "I can understand people have Hard to accept this thing and I respect them for it.
When I heard about it things went in from one balance and out of the other not because it has no value and importance but because it came out and succeeded.
He failed because of this lawsuit. "
Deep in the Festigal.
Oded Paz (Photo: Reuven Castro)
Regarding Anna's decision to shelve the song and clip "Beautiful Guys", I want to tell her aspiration. In the work being filmed for her clip a fortune is invested, and if she decided to shelve it because her conscience does not allow and because of the sensitivity of the issues - then congratulations to Anna and the recipient "The decision. They preempted a cure for Mecca. It's better that way. And next time, they create a work of one kind or another, maybe it's better that we all become a little more politically correct."
And what do you think of the Adi Beatty storm?
"I'm deep in the filming of the festival. I honestly did not hear anything about it. I did not even get to watch the clip and read the articles about the storm so I can not comment on it."
Oded Paz returned to the screen yesterday (Monday) with the seventh season of the reality show "Boys and Girls" on the children's channel, which he presents from day one, and this time he is joined by Ben Zini and Anna Zack, who herself appeared in the second season of the show.
Because of the Corona crisis, the new season of the show, filmed in the summer, is forced to air in the fall.
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Embracing format.
Oded Paz (Photo: Reuven Castro)
How does it feel to present the show with Anna Zack, who is half your age, and Ben Zini who is 16 years younger than you?
"I felt just fine, it was exciting to see a past contestant on the show, Anna, who was a tiny little girl at the time, who has since become very specialized. I have experience guiding alongside facilitators of all ages. "They have all the tips I can and I gave them as much as possible for the product to come out as best as possible, and they came out excellent. This format embraces them and they thrive in it."
After saying goodbye to the submission of the "Boys and Girls" program, it was to be submitted by Jordan Wiesel, who participated in the "Race for a Million".
Then she got sick in Corona, her submission was canceled, and you were returned to the program.
Did the Corona save you the prompt?
Laughs.
"The Corona did not save me the lead. Unfortunately the Corona caused Jordan not to be part of this project, and I have a very big regret about it. It fits into this thing. I am the only presenter left on the children's channel since that time. There was a moment when it seemed better for me to be Part of this behind-the-scenes project. Eventually all the staff and I who needed me realized that my behind-the-scenes experience can help but it is better expressed on screen. So this season I am also a facilitator and very involved in the level of content and editing. "This can not exist without me. I'm the only one on the show from day one, I feel like I'm part of the DNA of this thing."
Part of the DNA.
Oded Paz (Photo: Reuven Castro)
You say this program cannot exist without you, but I remind you that everyone has a replacement - even you.
And even to Bibi.
"Of course I have a replacement. But no one is saying the replacement will be better."
Because of the corona - the facilitators, contestants and the entire production were isolated at the hotel and cut off from the families for two weeks, and the rise of the program was postponed until the fall.
How was it?
"True, the filming that was supposed to take place on Passover was postponed. It's a bit disappointing that the program comes up late because it's a summer program anyway. But I think something unique was created because of this thing, because they put the whole staff in isolation in a hotel. The set we sat in the hotel. It caused a lot of good things. First of all we were just in it. I disconnected from the child and my family. It made the production much tighter. And our contestants also experienced something unique that contestants did not experience in the previous year from being constantly together. "The big minus is that we did not have any guest players and stars this season."
This week, in addition to the new season of "Boys and Girls", the RGE group, which owns the children's channel and a logical channel, launched a new Israeli online viewing platform for children and youth called "BIGI".
It includes the first Israeli streaming service intended only for children and youth, along with other content, including the so-called "influencer community" and gaming arenas.
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Oded Paz, Anna Zack and Ben Zini present the program "Boys and Girls" on the children's channel (Photo: Inbar Levy)
About three years ago, Tal Musari was interviewed by Walla!
Culture and dropped some bombs.
Among other things, he said: "The children's channel has ended its historic path. In recent years it has become increasingly illegitimate. It has abandoned its heart, and it is the children. I felt that the children were slowly starting to move away from this place."
Paz says in response: "From my acquaintance with the people - and Tal is very close to my heart and a very good friend of mine - this was said from personal injury. I can see and understand that it was also said from where the children's channel was three years ago, when it stopped broadcasting on all major platforms. The kids then started losing the ability to produce enough content to be relevant.But the story has changed significantly since then, and he is a very significant player on this pitch, both because of his old platform and library throughout the years but also because of the desire and ability to innovate.BIGI for me is renewal and it's the most straightforward "A line with the place where everyone is today. Because I browse Netflix from page to page and decide what content I want, and as soon as there is this possibility for children and youth, I feel like a creator who opens a door to Israeli art."
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A door opens for creation.
Oded Paz (Photo: Rafi Daloia)
Many in the industry are wondering - why on the children's channel are there no more flagship series that were once a respectable part of it, like "Gallis", "The Eight" and "The Island"?
"It's just a matter of budgets. The big bodies that used to transfer the budgets to the children's channel have risen and transferred the budgets to other locations like Slutsky's KidZ channel. They will soon end their contract and there could be another channel in its place, maybe it will be the children's channel. "The children produce so-and-so content in this and that time. There were series like 'The Children of Napoleon's Hill' and very unique series that have content and value."
And today there is not a single feature series on the channel that could give content and artistic and cultural value much greater than a reality show like "Boys and Girls."
I understand the problem of the limited budget, but I wonder why they chose to invest it in reality and not in a quality series and what is the relevance of the children's channel today.
"Boys and Girls" is a show with significant value. True, it's a genre of reality shows and shows. But it has a lot of value. All our contestants in all seasons, and especially this season, have an agenda and there is something to be said. I can not reveal Point things but want to tell you that what came out of this season is so many values like friendships, helping each other and accepting the other and the different. And it's reality, so things come out as they were, and they are exciting. I found myself crying. In front of dramas I do not cry In shows of this genre I find myself connecting much more to emotion.
"So I'm not telling you I would not want the kids channel to produce dramas, sitcoms, comedies and for me also documentary series, but within budget constraints that's what it's.
After the budget issues that prevented us from producing a lot of content I think there will now be a significant change.
"Both because the number of Cellcom and Partner customers has increased significantly and also because we are already everywhere."
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Oded Paz imitates the hand movement of Tal Musari in the promo photos for the Festigal 2020 (Photo: Pini Silok)
During the filming of "Boys and Girls" you celebrated your fortieth birthday, which is exactly the age of the festival where she will star this year, for the eighth time.
I was amazed to discover that as a child you had never watched the Festigal.
"True, it's really, really wrong that my parents didn't take me. My mother would sometimes take me to shows in Herzliya. The story is that my mother does not have a license so she did not take me. Later, when I attended the Fantasy Festigal, back in general, when I sat in the hall then I felt like "And I understand what this thing is."
One of the only good things about Corona is the union of "This is it", and there were other unions.
The members of the "pajamas" did have a staged zoom-in reunion meeting, but what are the chances of a real reunion for an episode or a season?
"We always have the desire to do with my friends. I guess if there is something big that we will all stand behind, then we will do it."
The rumor in the industry is that you are really in the business of unification but that your two partners are less.
"The rumor is not accurate. The question is to do what. There are so many things that can be done, we are a creative team together. I am always in favor of another season of 'The Pajamas'. It is not accurate that the other two are not. I think if there was an offer ... "We're talking about something very hypothetical here. It's nice that another generation is growing up on the content, and that it's still working and not looking outdated like I look at 'this is it' of yesteryear that looks outdated. But today's this' is not."
good friends.
Paz and Morals (Photo: Nir Peking)
How much does the "pajamas" humor hold up to the test of time?
"I do not know if the 'pajamas' will last the test of time for another 10-15 years. But I think when we set out we were a little early - we were very fast, and we also managed to do what makes us funny, and it does work in the test of time. The series was designed "So for the kids and teens but also the parents and big siblings watched. And so several generations grew up on it. Fun and exciting. By the way, recently a cute kid on Instagram approached me and created a pop-up doll of my character in his pajamas, and wanted me to sign him."
Kobe Farage, your pajama friend, has managed to move from the world of children to the world of adults, as a documentary filmmaker and as an actor in Cameri and adult series.
You are still identified as a children's artist.
Do you want to make this transition as well?
"Sure, in recent years I've been craving it more than ever. I'm happy to keep creating for kids because in the end this audience is growing. My malicious plan is that in a few years all this audience will grow, want to keep consuming me and not be able to do it through the kids channel , So maybe in the end we will become a channel that is just me. I have a very big desire, and I know how difficult this transition is. But I believe in myself and believe that it is possible. I have experienced a lot in guiding in recent years. In the eyes of Ninja Israel for children or boys. "Girls' is the equivalent of directing in prime time, and I very much hope that someone will give me the opportunity, this test, to show that I know how to do it right."
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Waiting for the opportunity.
Oded Paz (Photo: Reuven Castro)
You present two programs on the Knesset channel, one of which is "Alphabet in Politics," which tries to make politics accessible to children.
How difficult is it to make Mickey Zohar accessible to children?
"Yes, it is very embarrassing that elected officials behave, speak and behave in this way. It has always been like this. We in the channel do not deal with this slime, because we should not deal with it, and if so then we will just play it. We prefer to deal with youth opinions, hosts "Young chairmen of parties and the future generation. I see children with a lot of values and I hope they will deal with the matter."
A channel that is all me.
Oded Paz (Photo: Reuven Castro)
Both of your parents are retired psychologists.
How do you diagnose yourself psychologically?
"As a perfectionist, as a workman, and as a good man overall. I am a very positive man. When my father was 6 in Moshav Beit Meir, at the entrance to Jerusalem, there were remnants of the war. He found some unidentified object, took it to some cave and played with it. It was a grenade, The Christian flew, hey the big explosion in a small space in the cave. He went blind from it and had his hand amputated
.
Something within this thing made me a very different and different child.
I think over the years, as my mind to engage in acting and comedy has formed, in the eyes of people I have always been a little different and different.
The one who does nonsense with friends in a taxi on the way to a club with friends at the age of 15, and all the friends tell the taxi driver, leave, do not put her to him, as if I am making a fuss about them.
Something about this thing that I have always been different has made me a person who has on the one hand very special abilities like my father - of spatial vision and knowledge of the environment, and on the other hand someone who comes in the opposite direction, in another and different.
I think that is how I managed to get accepted to the IDF Theater. And even today, after 20 years in my career and profession, I am a foreigner in this industry, very different, and run differently. And I owe it to my parents, the way they raised me, let me do what That I want, made me believe in myself and fly over myself. "
The first season of "The Pajamas" has the episode where you get into Tal Musari's head, inspired by the movie "Being John Malkovich".
Which person's head would you like to enter?
"Against the background of the celebrations of the 40th anniversary of the Festigal, I would very much like to be inside Hanoch Rosen's head. I think there has been silence for so many years that today he does not stop talking."
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