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"When I joined Netanyahu, people went crazy. They slandered me and did everything to end my life."

Admiration for the Prime Minister ("The Netanyahu era will not end unless they replace the people"), friendships with Yair Netanyahu ("He is stunning") and the relationship despite the age gap between them: After spreading the gospel of veganism in Israel, Tal Gilboa and Roi Shafranik open up here and go on a rampage Competitors in "Winning Couple VIP" on Network 13. Interview

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Nir Yahav

Monday, 29 March 2021, 00:01

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Tal Gilboa and Roi Shafernik - VIP Winning Couple (Network 13)

Just before Tel Gilboa went out with her partner Roi Shafranik for the filming of the new season of "VIP Winning Couple" (which airs tonight at 9:30 PM on Network 13), she suddenly realized that she did not know many of the couples who are expected to participate in the reality competition.

"I may have been in 'Big Brother,' but I'm not at all in these worlds of celebs," she tells Walla!

culture.

"I did not know who Manny Matera was, I did not know who Ben Zini and Taylor Malchov were, and of course I did not know who Adele Beslov and her husband Match were. After searching on Google, I discovered that he had 12 meat restaurants, including 'Myth' in Tel Aviv. I had a clear language. There's going to be an explosion of life, that there's a huge mess between us. That it's us vegans in front of the meat restaurant owner. But what happened is just the opposite. I found out they're a wonderful couple with a wonderful relationship and we became good friends. She even told me that Match's restaurant has a vegan menu. "And she told me I influenced her. It's just cool."

Have you yourself discovered anything different about your relationship as a result of the program?

Roi: "I do not think I discovered anything. It was very fast and missionary. We jumped on the plane and come on an adventure. I do not think I came through a couple process in front of all the people of Israel. Tal and I are strong together. We have been working together for years and we know why we are there."

Tal: "I do not do PR for my relationship compared to another relationship. I just hope that whoever watches the show will say to himself 'this is exactly what I deserve and this is what I want'. When you are exposed to a different relationship from your own, no matter what, the best thing you can say to yourself is' "How lucky I am to have what I have." I did not need the plan to tell myself how good this world was towards me when he gave me this relationship. "

And this is already your second reality, after "Big Brother."

Tal: "Every reality show I go to is a great opportunity for me to talk about animal rights. I deal with reality shows - take advantage of me and I will take advantage of you. I talk about animal rights as much as possible to reach as many people as possible and try to influence them. But That's not the only reason I went to 'Winning Couple'. I'm a woman in her early forties and I'm amazing in Chapter 2. My goal is to tell all the women who have entered the circle of divorcees, and they are desperate and worried, not to despair. I came to show them that Big Time is possible. I have never experienced such love. "

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Chapter B. Successful.

Tal and Roi (Photo: screenshot, courtesy of those photographed)

Tal Gilboa (42) is one of the most famous animal rights activists in Israel.

About a decade ago she saw a calf being separated from its mother and as a result became vegan.

Since then she has established and been active in several movements, organizations and projects, including the "Animal Liberation Front", "Transparent Walls" and "Total Liberation".

In 2014 she won the sixth season of "Big Brother" and became a familiar figure in every living room.

A year later, she separated from her partner Eran and since then she has been living in a relationship with Roi Shafernik, who is seven years younger than her, an activist and photographer who works with her in "Transparent Walls", together with her three daughters (12, 17 and 19)

. , Son of the Prime Minister.

"He's stunning. After he saw how two goats are separated and wrote on Facebook 'Do not eat meat,' he called me and we talked, and he collaborated with me on a project where celebrity reactions are seen to what's going on in a slaughterhouse. I asked him for help regarding the live shipments law, he wrote. "I was amazed at Netanyahu's staff and there I was amazed at Netanyahu's openness to this issue. And I also slowly discovered that Sarah's parents were vegan and that Sarah constantly talks about animals and gives them as an example to the helpless like children and the elderly."

Yes, but she herself is not vegan.

Tal: "Neither Avner nor Bibi. But if we have to work only with vegans, we will not be able to work. The prime minister is talking about reducing meat eating, promoting animal rights, who ever listened to us?".

About a year ago, Gilboa received a phone call from the prime minister asking her to come and work with him - and since then she has been the prime minister's adviser on animal affairs.

Is there a situation that we are towards the end of the Netanyahu era?

Tal: "There is no such thing. In principle, I am not allowed to express a political opinion because I am a civil servant, but I will say nonetheless. They keep saying that if he had just gone, a government would have formed quickly. But most of the public who go to the polls want him as prime minister. You can erase the people or replace them. The people want Netanyahu. On a personal level, I look at him and only appreciate him more and more. I talk to him both at three in the morning and at six in the morning, I really do not understand where he has such power at his age to take Israel and make it To an economic and security power. People forgot that we ended a mad plague here. The Netanyahu era is not over unless they replace the people. As long as the people want it to lead them, they should do it. The State of Israel is not a lottery bet.

"I see what Netanyahu is going through and I I think I'm like Netanyahu in a small way.

There are those who say how much damage I do and there are those who say I am the best thing that has happened to animals.

On a personal level, I reached my peak.

I am an activist who came to work with the Prime Minister.

When I was appointed to the position, the whole world published sympathetic articles, and only here did I catch fire and articles against me.

Everyone wanted to overthrow me and attack me.

Whoever can do it better than me - will bring an alternative. "

"The Netanyahu era is not over unless the people are replaced."

Gilboa and Netanyahu (Photo: screenshot, courtesy of those photographed)

How do you bridge the gap between Yair Netanyahu "the stunning and the nice" as you describe him, and the aggressive, violent-verbal and provocative type who looked at us from Twitter?

Tal: "Yair is not only the son of the prime minister, he is also the son of Bibi and Sarah. When you are a child and see what is being done to your family, when you see how your father's blood is shed he is a valued leader and gives his life for the country, and you know he does not deserve "Then you get the anger and frustration. The anger always comes out on the nets, much more than life. Yair is hurt, and I think if he could have done it another way, maybe he would have done it. He just stayed with that bitterness."

Roi: "Your question comes from a position. If you ask Yair's supporters, they will say that he does not answer strongly enough. We as Netanyahu's supporters see the mainstream media in Israel as a party and not as a balanced media. They are the ones talking about 'the corrupt from Balfour.' "Bastille Day", "Ceausescu" and Guillotines ".

Where have you seen such a thing?

In which media?

Tal: "Only recently has Rina Matzliach called Netanyahu's herd 'blind'."

Do you live in peace with the fact that Netanyahu promoted the religious Zionist party, which ranks 3rd in Itamar Ben Gvir?

That the Noam movement she is a member of is homophobic?

Roi: "Just as the left embraces Balad and has no problem sitting with people who criticize security prisoners who have carried out terrorist attacks, so too on the right there are extremist voices that are not identical to the Likud ideology." The

left does not promote Balad.

Netanyahu called for voting for Ben Gvir's party.

Roi: "After all, there is no chance in the world that anything against gays will be promoted here as long as Amir Ohana, who is an amazing minister, is in his position."

Tal: "It's not as long as Amir Ohana is in office, it's as long as Netanyahu is in office. It's not just that Netanyahu said in a television interview that Ben Gvir will not be a minister. And why? Because they do not hold the same views. In the end, a coalition of 61 fingers. If you can go with Ibtisam Mara'ana who says that the memory of Yaakov should be erased, how can you come up with arguments on the other side? You can embrace those who murder Jews and hate Jews, but you can not embrace those who say the opposite about the State of Israel.

" The economy, 50 percent of the new egg quotas will go exclusively to caged coops.

This is a precedent that has never existed in the State of Israel and who managed to bring it about?

MK Margi from the Shas party.

What do I come to say?

When you want to promote something you make connections that on the side can look completely weird.

During the nine months I have been working in Netanyahu's office, I was amazed at the connection I was able to make with the kippah wearers, for example.

Not necessarily with the secular.

Politics is the art of the possible and it is impossible to constantly sting us in the eye of 'Ben Gvir Ben Gvir' when in Tekel's there are people on the other side who call not to stand by the siren and erase the memory of Yaakov.

It is kosher to overthrow Netanyahu. "

Roi:" We made a historic move in Israel when we took the issue of animal rights on our backs and connected it to the right.

Both Mansour Abbas and Ben Gvir can be vegan.

It does not belong only to North Tel Aviv, it to the whole State of Israel.

There is no such thing as vegans that only leftists.

There are a million people here who do not eat meat.

By the way Ben Gvir, with some of his opinions I agree.

For example, crime in the south.

If I start the boycott game, I will not get anywhere.

Fifteen years ago I stopped eating meat.

Did not know then what veganism is.

We did a crazy plowing here in the people of Israel and we reached everyone.

We have documented countless investigations and now we are going to a 'winning couple'. "

"No one counts."

Gilboa (Photo: screenshot, courtesy of those photographed)

The "Israel Time" website published an investigation about you about two years ago in which it was claimed that the activity around you was like a cult and people who left your group were treated at a center for cult victims.

It has been argued that you have abused your admiration, punished people, swindled, boycotted, called traitors people because they went to other vegan groups and those who expressed a different position were lynched and humiliated.

Tal: "It started at the time when I started being in touch with the Netanyahu family. I was investigated everywhere and everyone shelved it. Everyone got off the story for the simple reason that it is nothing and those behind it are vengeful and jealous people. These people - who were vegan, by the way - of course disappeared. When I joined Netanyahu it drove people crazy. Everything written in this investigation was not and was not created, there is nothing because there was nothing. They treated me with bullying, did me a character murder. Today I do not count any of them, but they did everything to defame me and finish "My life. None of them come close to my work."

Roy: "When you do social activities, you work with people on a voluntary basis so both good and less good people come. It's easiest to do shaming for someone else. This is nonsense, revenge campaigns, for eight years trying to blackmail us. We will not give in to the dictates of lunatics. "Take for example the vegans, some of whom oppose vaccines. If I express my opinion on them, they will embark on a campaign of revenge."

"Another parental figure."

Shafranik and Gilboa (Photo: screenshot, courtesy of the photographers)

Tonight, the new season of "VIP Winning Couple" will air on the network 13, hosted by Itai Turgeman and Anna Aronov, in which Tal and Roi will try to compete with seven other pairs of celebs in a variety of couple missions, including Ben Zini and Taylor Malkov, Aviva and Yechiel Hazan, Iggy Waxman and Atti Schulberg, Adel Beslov and Match worked and Itzik Zohar and his partner Laura.

Filming began in Sao Paulo, Brazil with the outbreak of the corona plague in the world and was stopped when the plague hit Brazil hard.

The contestants had to pack everything in one night and get out immediately.

“Because it started overseas and then there was Corona and we ran away, it was a very powerful experience.

I realized during it how much I am in love with Roi, how much is the best thing that has happened to me in my life.

It just reinforced what I already knew, that it is important to be with a violating and empowering couple. "

Roi:" Tal is stunning.

Is an asset for Israel and my personal property at home. "

When you started going out, you had no concerns 30-year-old bachelor enter a relationship with someone divorced with three daughters?

Roy:" It's not something you plan it.

This is life and they invite you to a very specific reality.

We have been living together for several years and we are like family.

Although I am not the father of her daughters, they have an amazing father and they love him very much, but I am another parent figure and they only benefit from this relationship gifts, shuttle services, cleaning and pampering.

When you start a relationship you do not know where he will go.

Today we are together for a few years and it's just fun. "

What do you think of a man who instead of becoming vegan significantly reduced his meat consumption?

Roy:" Anyone who does a process of reduction or conscious understanding - I welcome him.

Well done to him.

He began a process of understanding that exists here without life.

Our resources convince small people.

It's really David versus Goliath.

We are dealing with an insane propaganda campaign of all the giant corporations, the whole animal food industry.

It is clear that there has been a significant change and today a million Israelis do not eat meat, but still every day a million animals are slaughtered in Israel.

Therefore, by the way, we have reached a 'winning couple', the tribal bonfire, the heart of the Israeli public.

But anyway, I can not demand from anyone to become vegan overnight.

In my experience, someone who is exposed to investigations and begins to develop awareness, eventually becomes fully vegan. "

Tal:" Every journey of a thousand kilometers begins with one step.

I always compare it to a mother who stops beating her girl every day and beats her only once a week.

This is the example I give people, because if they already understand that they are wrong, then they need to understand that every lunch where they eat a dish of meat, it is taking the life of an animal.

This is the bottom line.

"We can all be different people, because all the plagues that have affected humanity - including the corona, of course - came into being because of the connection between humans and animals."

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