Lauterbach with a somber forecast of the end of the crisis - Plasberg interrupts him in horror

Karl Lauterbach (SPD) spoke to Frank Plasberg about the corona virus - the ARD debate on a certain topic became particularly lively.

• On April 20, SPD health expert Karl Lauterbach was among the guests at "hart aber fair"  .
• The ARD talk with Frank Plasberg was also about ghost gamesin the corona crisis * .
• Lauterbach caused a sensation with a statement about the school openings * .
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Berlin - In the meantime, the Oktoberfest * has also been canceled - but the Bundesliga  still hopes that it can continue in May. In the Monday evening talk by Frank Plasberg (ARD), the SPD health expert Karl Lauterbach  (SPD) expressed his surprise. He recently tweeted that there was no time for “bread and games” now.

The Bundesliga would consume tens of thousands of tests that nursing homes and schools lack. To do this, fan meetings would initiate chains of infection. It is also unclear why other sports have to wait. Nobody needs "bread and games" https://t.co/dh5BedNWBb

Lauterbach criticized Plasberg: “The players would have to be tested before and after. That would take tens of thousands of tests. We don't have these tests in nursing homes and schools! ”In addition to Lauterbach, economic researcher Prof. Dr. Clemens Fuest , SZ journalist Barbara Vorsamer , left-wing politician Ulrich Schneider and Saarland Prime Minister  Tobias Hans . 

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Hans defended ghost games: "If we allow people to stand together on the assembly line to work in the company, then of course you have to give professional athletes the opportunity to pursue their vocation" - but this also provoked violent protests from Schneider.

In addition to the ghost games, society and politics are currently concerned with the federal government's corona measures * - above all the gradual opening of schools and daycare centers. For Barbara Vorsamer, ghost games are not the main problem at the moment: “I am particularly surprised about your priority setting. I have no objection to football being played, I have no objection to anything being loosened up elsewhere, ”she said.

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The SZ journalist continued: “In the Leopoldina paper, for example, there was a single sentence about daycare centers . One. And the sentence was that parents can do it when they work in their home office. ”

"Ridiculous," she thinks. "When should I work the eight hours - while my children are sleeping? That doesn't work. Home office is not a solution for childcare. This can only be suggested by someone who has never done this before. ”Furthermore, research * is not yet in agreement whether children are superspreaders. "Why is nobody investigating this?" She asks.

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Lauterbach shows understanding for their line of argument - and becomes even more drastic: "We have to be prepared for the fact that we will return to a normality like we knew last year - even at school - at the earliest in 2021, maybe even only in 2022, according to the latest studies. "Plasberg interrupted him here, raising both hands:" Mr. Lauterbach, do you understand what that means? You say that in a subordinate clause? "

Lauterbach was undeterred: “You have to tell the truth. And I ask you, what's the point? The best long-term study is the Harvard University group study published last week. That means that we have to expect that it might work until 2022. ” 

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Then Lauterbach turned to the very serious-looking auditor: "If so, then you are absolutely right that we have to develop a completely new school concept."

One has to think about the possibility of having to practice "completely different" for more than two years of school - and that has to be prepared now, the SPD health expert says: "We still hope that we can do a miracle cure by the end of the year have solved. That will not happen!"

* Merkur.de and tz.de are part of the nationwide Ippen-Digital editors network.